Solve Fractional Exponents: Logic Explained

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The discussion revolves around understanding fractional exponents, specifically how to interpret and solve expressions like 2 to the 1/3rd power. Participants explore the logic behind fractional exponents, their definitions, and methods for calculating them.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to solve for 2 to the 1/3rd power, expressing confusion about the concept of multiplying by itself a fractional number of times.
  • Another participant defines fractional exponents, explaining that x^{1/n} is equivalent to the nth root of x, and provides a logical framework for this notation.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of sticking to integers for clarity in calculations, providing examples to illustrate the concept of fractional exponents.
  • One participant questions how to find the value of y in the equation y^3 = 8 without prior intuition, indicating a desire for a more foundational understanding of the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and comfort with the concept of fractional exponents. While some provide definitions and examples, others indicate confusion and seek further clarification, suggesting that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of calculating fractional exponents by hand and suggest reliance on calculators or memorization, indicating limitations in the practical application of the concepts discussed.

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Can someone explain the logic behind this?

For instance if 2 to the 3rd power = 2 x 2 x 2 =8

So 2 to the 3rd power is telling me I have 2 multiplied by itself 3 times.

Now how would I solve for 2 to the 1/3rd power? It is telling me I have 2 multiplied by itself 1/3 times but how do you solve this?

Can you show me how you would work that out?

Thanks.
 
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For a positive number, x, and a positive integer, n, we define the notation
[tex]x^n := x \cdot x \cdot \ldots x[/tex]
where there are n number of multiplications. Just as subtraction inverts addition, and division inverts multiplication, we want a notation that inverts exponentiation. We define
[tex]x^{1/n} := \sqrt[n]{x}[/tex]
In words, the notation [itex]x^{1/n}[/itex] means "find the number, y, such that yn = x".

And that's the "logic". We are free to define notation in any way we want. That's it.

As to why we do this, you can prove that [itex](\sqrt[n]{x})^m = (x^{1/n})^m = (x^m)^{1/n} = \sqrt[n]{x^m}[/itex]. So it behaves like "multiplying" the exponents together.
 
I still feel a bit lost. Any chance you can provide an example with numbers?
 
Well, its better to stick to integers, as the calculations are clearer.

The notation 81/3 means find y, such that we solve y3 = 8. Namely the answer is 2. 2 times 2 times 2 is 8. As you noted.
Observe that we have
[tex]2^3 = 8[/tex]
[tex](2^3)^{1/3} = 8^{1/3}[/tex]
[tex]2^{3 \times 1/3} = 8^{1/3}[/tex]
[tex]2 = 8^{1/3}[/tex]
after I write the equation right to left. So we are inverting equations.

Similarly, 10866832384811/4 = 1021 because
1021 times 1021 times 1021 times 1021 = 1086683238481.

Suppose now we wanted 21/2, which is find y such that y2 = 2. It's the square root of 2. We know that 12 = 1 < 2 <4 = 22. So y is strictly between 1 and 2. It turns out that this number is not a fraction either. Its approximately 1.41421356... never terminating or repeating. A mathematician would simply write [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] rather than be bothered to calculate what that number is.

Actually calculating these things by hand is not recommended. Either you memorize a lot of tables, learn how to use log tables, or use a calculator. Or learn some algorithms and spend a lot of time.
 
I think my real question is how do you find y to the power of 3 = 8 without intuitively knowing it?
 

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