Solve Funky Integral: Simplify g(t)

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the integral g(t) defined as g(t) = ∫_{-∞}^∞ f(u) · f(t - u) du, where f(t) is a piecewise function. Participants are exploring the implications of the piecewise nature of f(t) on the evaluation of g(t) across different ranges of t.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the integral based on the behavior of f(t - u) and consider cases for different ranges of t. There are attempts to clarify when f(t - u) equals 0 or 1 and how that affects the integral.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into how to evaluate g(t) based on the defined piecewise function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider different cases for t, and there is recognition of the need to further analyze the integral based on these cases.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the piecewise definition of f(t) and are questioning the implications of the limits of integration as they relate to the values of t. There is also acknowledgment of potential errors in reasoning as participants refine their understanding of g(t).

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[SOLVED] A Funky Integral

Let

f(t) =\left\{\begin{array}{lll}<br /> 0 &amp;\mbox{ if }t &lt; 0 \\<br /> 1 &amp;\mbox{ if }0 \leq t \leq 1 \\<br /> 0 &amp;\mbox{ if }t &gt; 1<br /> \end{array}\right

I need a simplified version of g(t) shown below:

g(t) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(u) \cdot f(t - u) \, du

I divide the integral into the following sum:

g(t) = \int_{-\infty}^0 f(u) \cdot f(t - u) \, du + \int_{0}^1 f(u) \cdot f(t - u) \, du + \int_{1}^\infty f(u) \cdot f(t - u) \, du

f(u) in the first and third term is 0 according to the definition of f. Hence

g(t) = \int_0^1 f(t - u) \, du

Is this right? What do I do know? Should I consider the cases where t &lt; 0, 0 \le t \le 1 and t &gt; 0? Or should that be t - u?
 
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What you have so far looks good. Now, consider the cases for when f(t-u) is 0 and 1. Remember that f(t-u) is just f(t) shifted by u units on the t axis.
 
When f(t-u) is 0, g(t) is 0. When f(t-u) is 1, g(t) is 1. Is that what you mean?
 
e(ho0n3 said:
When f(t-u) is 0, g(t) is 0. When f(t-u) is 1, g(t) is 1. Is that what you mean?

Almost. What I mean is that you should split up f(t-u) into a piecwise function. Find the range of t values for which f(t-u) is 1 and 0. In other words, write f(t-u) in the way f(t) is given to you. After you do this you should be able to break up the integral on your last line into smaller integrals that you can easily evaluate.
 
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When t < u, f(t - u) = 0. When t is in the range [u, 1 + u], f(t - u) is 1. If t > 1 + u, f(t - u) is 0.

If t < 0, given that the limits of the integral are 0 and 1, t - u < 0 and f(t - u) is 0 so g(t) = 0 right?

If t is in [0, 1], then whenever u > t, t - u < 0 and f(t - u) is 0. So in this case, the integral would break like this:

\int_0^1 f(t - u) \, du = \int_0^t f(t - u) \, du \: + \int_t^1 f(t - u) \, du

On the right-hand side, f(t - u) in the first term is 1 and in the second term 0 so g(t) is 1 in this case.

When t > 1, the integral breaks up exactly like above except that f(t - u) in the first term is 0 and 1 in the second term. g(t) is 1 in this case.

In summary, g(t) = 0 if t < 0; otherwise g(t) = 1. Right?
 
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e(ho0n3 said:
If t is in [0, 1], then whenever u > t, t - u < 0 and f(t - u) is 0. So in this case, the integral would break like this:

\int_0^1 f(t - u) \, du = \int_0^t f(t - u) \, du \: + \int_t^1 f(t - u) \, du

On the right-hand side, f(t - u) in the first term is 1 and in the second term 0 so g(t) is 1 in this case.

I messed up. g(t) is not 1. If f(t - u) is 1 in the first term, then that integral becomes t so g(t) = t in this case.
 
e(ho0n3 said:
When t > 1, the integral breaks up exactly like above except that f(t - u) in the first term is 0 and 1 in the second term. g(t) is 1 in this case.

I made a mistake here too. I realized this after working out some examples where t > 1. For example, g(10) = 0 and g(1.1) = 0.9. It seems that if 1 < t < 2, then g(t) = 2 - t. If t is greater than or equal to 2, then g(t) is 0.
 
Correction. g(t) = 0 when t >2 and g(t) = 2 - t whenever t is in the range (1, 2].
 

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