Solve Heat Transfer Problem for Cylindrical Rod of Steel

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The discussion revolves around solving a heat transfer problem involving a cylindrical rod of stainless steel, focusing on the steady-state temperature distribution and the calculation of heat flux. Participants explore the application of Fourier's Law for conduction and the relevance of various parameters such as thermal conductivity, diameter, and mass of the rod.

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  • One participant presents the temperature distribution and seeks to determine the heat flux, expressing uncertainty about the thermal conductivity and its relation to the mass of the rod.
  • Another participant suggests looking up the thermal conductivity of stainless steel and indicates that the diameter and mass are extraneous to the calculation of heat flux.
  • A participant questions the relevance of the diameter and mass, reiterating the formula for heat transfer and seeking clarification on whether they are missing something.
  • There is a clarification that the problem specifically asks for heat flux, defined as heat flow per unit area, rather than the total rate of heat flow.
  • One participant asserts their long experience in engineering heat transfer, stating that heat flux is consistently understood as heat flow per unit area, while another participant acknowledges this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definition of heat flux as heat flow per unit area. However, there is some disagreement regarding the relevance of certain parameters (diameter and mass) in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the connection between the mass of the rod and thermal conductivity, and there is a lack of consensus on the necessity of including diameter in the calculations.

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A cylindrical rod of stainless steel is insulated on its exterior
surface except for the ends. The steady-state temperature
distribution is T(x) = a-bx/L, where a = 305 K
and b =10 K. The diameter and length of the rod are
D = 20 mm and L =100 mm, respectively. Determine
the heat flux along the rod, Hint: The mass of the rod
is M = 0.248 kg.

T(x) = 305 - 100x.
dT(x)/dx = -100.
I know that heat flux is modeled by Fourier's Law for conduction: qx'' = -k*dT/dx. What I'm having trouble finding is the conductivity k and I'm wondering whether it has something to do with the mass of the rod, although I am not seeing the connection here.
Thanks.
 
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eurekameh said:
A cylindrical rod of stainless steel is insulated on its exterior
surface except for the ends. The steady-state temperature
distribution is T(x) = a-bx/L, where a = 305 K
and b =10 K. The diameter and length of the rod are
D = 20 mm and L =100 mm, respectively. Determine
the heat flux along the rod, Hint: The mass of the rod
is M = 0.248 kg.

T(x) = 305 - 100x.
dT(x)/dx = -100.
I know that heat flux is modeled by Fourier's Law for conduction: qx'' = -k*dT/dx. What I'm having trouble finding is the conductivity k and I'm wondering whether it has something to do with the mass of the rod, although I am not seeing the connection here.
Thanks.

You need to have more confidence in yourself. So far, what you have done is correct. You need to look up the thermal conductivity of stainless steel on google. Just multiply it by minus the temperature gradient, and you're done. The diameter is extraneous, as is the mass (unless the thermal conductivity of steel is given as a function of density, which I doubt).
 
Chestermiller said:
. The diameter is extraneous, as is the mass (unless the thermal conductivity of steel is given as a function of density, which I doubt).

Oh?
dQ/dt = -kA dT/dx
k = thermal conductivity
A = cross-sectional area
dT/dx = temperature gradient = -b/L

Am I missing something?
 
rude man said:
Oh?
dQ/dt = -kA dT/dx
k = thermal conductivity
A = cross-sectional area
dT/dx = temperature gradient = -b/L

Am I missing something?

Yes. The problem asked for the heat flux (heat flow per unit area), not the total rate of heat flow.
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes. The problem asked for the heat flux (heat flow per unit area), not the total rate of heat flow.

I would question that.

For example, in magnetics, flux is the B field times the area.
 
That may very well be the case in magnetics, but I've been doing engineering heat transfer for almost 50 years, and heat flux has always been heat flow per unit area. I've never seen the term used in any other way.
 
Chestermiller said:
That may very well be the case in magnetics, but I've been doing engineering heat transfer for almost 50 years, and heat flux has always been heat flow per unit area. I've never seen the term used in any other way.

I checked and you are right.
 

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