Solve Integral Equation | G(x) and F(x)

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The discussion revolves around an integral equation involving functions G(x) and F(x), where G(x) is defined as the integral of F(t) from x-m to x. The goal is to find the unknown function F(x).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the differentiation of both sides of the equation to relate G'(x) and F(x). Some express skepticism about the simplicity of the approach. Others consider the implications of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus and question how it applies to the unknown function F(t).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations and approaches being explored. Some participants have suggested reformulating the problem through series, while others are examining the relationship between the functions involved. There is no explicit consensus on the best method to solve for F(x).

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem and the potential for different interpretations of the integral equation. There are references to the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, but its applicability is questioned due to the unknown nature of F(t).

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Hello,

Could you please help me to solve this equation:

G(x)= INTEGRAL[F(t)dt]

lower integral limit: x-m,
upper integral limit: x,
m is a constant,
G(x) is a known function,
F(x) is unknown and should be found.

Thank you very much!
 
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Differentiate both sides?

You should get G'(x) = F(x) - F(x-m).
 
NoMoreExams said:
Differentiate both sides?

You should get G'(x) = F(x) - F(x-m).

so easy? are you sure?
 
trebmling said:
so easy? are you sure?

Nope, I'm not in your class, I don't know what you are learning nor what the teacher is trying to show you with that exercise but I do like giving false leads so people would do bad on their homework.
 
I was thinking that there should be a more complex expression while differentiating th integral by a parameter x.
 
Maybe it is, consult FTC
 
what's FTS?
 
Not sure what FTS is but FTC is Fundamental Theorem of Calculus
 
NoMoreExams said:
Not sure what FTS is but FTC is Fundamental Theorem of Calculus
In the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, the f(x) under integral and the final F(x) are different functions, namely f(x)=F'(x). Therefore, in my case it does not help, since my function under the integral is unknown.

This equation is easy, but not that easy.

I am now trying to solve it by reformulating through series.
 
  • #10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_calculus#First_part

Your G(x) is their F(x) therefore your G'(x) is their F'(x). Your F(t) is their f(t). The only difference is their integral goes from a to x and yours goes from x-m to x therefore you can generalize their version to

[tex]F(x) = \int_{\alpha(x)}^{\beta(x)} f(t) dt \Rightarrow F'(x) = f(\beta(x)) \cdot \beta'(x) - f(\alpha(x)) \cdot \alpha'(x)[/tex]
 
  • #11
nope, ...but may be you are right.
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  • #12
nope what?
 
  • #13
I wasn't claiming it's THAT easy to solve for F(x) it is not, in what I told you, I don't explicitly solve for F(x) I just give an exprsession that involves it and if your G(x) is "nice" enough you can "guess" what F(x) would have to be.
 
  • #14
NoMoreExams said:
nope what?

I have just derived another solution for my problem through series, and it reads like this:

F(x)=G(x)- SUM(F(t)) {summation for t from x-m to x-1}
 
  • #15
Your solution is probably right, and then these two solutions should be equivalent. If my solution through series is right.
 

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