Solve Linear Equations: 1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x)

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x). Participants explore the interpretation of the equation, its linearity, and the steps involved in solving it, with a focus on clarifying notation and mathematical reasoning.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the notation used in the equation, specifically regarding whether 1/3x means (1/3)x or 1/(3x).
  • Others argue that if 1/3x is interpreted as (1/3)x, then the equation is not linear due to the presence of 1/x.
  • A participant suggests multiplying both sides by the least common denominator to eliminate fractions, leading to a quadratic equation rather than a linear one.
  • There are multiple interpretations of the equation's structure, with some participants proposing different forms and methods for solving it.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of providing context and explanations alongside mathematical formulas to clarify the intent behind the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the equation or its classification as linear. Multiple competing views on the notation and solution methods remain unresolved.

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Limitations include ambiguity in notation, dependence on interpretations of mathematical expressions, and unresolved steps in the proposed solutions.

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1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x)
 
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I'm assuming you're trying to solve this equation. What have you tried? Where are you stuck?
 
abhishekdas said:
1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x)
Besides, the notation 1/3x is somewhat ambiguous: it may mean either (1/3)x or 1/(3x). The same pertains to coefficients 1/5 and 1/3: it is recommended to write (1/5) if this number is followed by multiplication. Note that if 1/3x means (1/3)x, then the equation is not linear. So please clarify what you mean by inserting parentheses.
 
abhishekdas said:
1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x)
Since you titled this "linear equations" I would have assumed that your "1/3x" mean "(1/3)x"- that is, "one third times x" rather than 1/(3x), 1 divided by 3x. But then your "1/x" confuses me. From that I have to conclude that this is NOT, as it stands, a "linear equation" and you intend \frac{1}{5}\frac{1}{3x- 5}= \frac{1}{3}\left(3- \frac{1}{x}\right).

The simplest way to handle problems like this is to get rid of all those fractions by multiplying both sides by the "least common denominator". Since there are no "duplicates" here, the "least common denominator" is just the product of all of the denominators (5)(3x- 4)(3)(x). Multiplying on both side by that will cancel the denominators "5" and "3x - 5" on the left and the denominators "3" and "x" on the right leaving 3x= 5(3x- 5)(3x- 1) which still is not linear- it is the quadratic equation 3x= 45x^2- 60x+ 25 or 45x^2- 63x+ 25= 0. But that equation has no real number roots.
 
1/(15x) -1=1- 1/(3x)

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6/15x =2
 
Tennisgoalie said:
1/(15x) -1=1- 1/(3x)

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6/15x =2
If you have no further questions, then it is a good idea to mark the thread as solved. Otherwise, please post your questions. The thing is that contrary to what some people may think, bare formulas almost never constitute a piece of mathematical work. They must be accompanied by plain text explanations saying what we want to do with such formulas (e.g., solve an equation or find a counterexample), whether a given formula is an assumption or something to prove, what the difficulty of the problem is, why should one consider such problem interesting and so on.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Tennisgoalie said:
1/(15x) -1=1- 1/(3x)

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6/15x =2

If you have no further questions, then it is a good idea to mark the thread as solved. Otherwise, please post your questions. The thing is that contrary to what some people may think, bare formulas almost never constitute a piece of mathematical work. They must be accompanied by plain text explanations saying what we want to do with such formulas (e.g., solve an equation or find a counterexample), whether a given formula is an assumption or something to prove, what the difficulty of the problem is, why should one consider such problem interesting and so on.

What happened here is that help was given by Tennisgoalie to the OP. Admittedly, this would perhaps have been more clear had the post looked more like:

Tennisgoalie said:
abhishekdas said:
1/5(1/3x-5)=1/3(3-1/x)

Assuming the equation is to be interpreted as follows:

(1/5)(1/(3x) - 5) = (1/3)(3 - 1/x)

then distribution on both sides yields:

1/(15x) -1 = 1 - 1/(3x)

Multiplying 1/(3x) by 5/5 to get 5/(15x), we may then add 1 + 5/(15x) to both sides to obtain:

6/(15x) = 2

Can you continue?

However, Tennisgoalie just joined MHB within the last 24 hours and may be new to math help sites in general and inexperienced with how to most effectively provide help to others, such as to use plain text to elucidate the steps taken.
 
Ah, sorry, I should have checked the usernames. Thanks to Tennisgoalie for the help.
 

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