Solve Quadratic Function: Find x-Intercepts & Just Touches x-Axis

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The discussion revolves around a quadratic function of the form f(x) = 2x² + bx + 5, focusing on determining the values of b for different scenarios regarding the x-intercepts of the graph. The scenarios include when the graph just touches the x-axis, has two x-intercepts, or does not intersect the x-axis at all.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the quadratic formula and the significance of the discriminant (b² - 4ac) in determining the nature of the roots. There are inquiries about how to handle the two unknowns (b and x) and the implications of the graph touching the x-axis on the number of real solutions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the quadratic function has different types of roots. Some participants have provided insights into the discriminant and its role in identifying the nature of the roots, while others are questioning how to derive the values of b given the constraints of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with two unknowns in the context of the three subtasks related to the x-intercepts. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the conditions that affect the nature of the roots based on the value of b.

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1. A quadratic fraction is of the form f(x)= 2x^2+bx+5
Find the values for b where the graph of f(x):
1.just touches the x-axis
2. has two x-intercepts
3.does not cut or touch the x-axis


I've tried using the quadratic formula but i have no idea how to do it when there are two unknowns. For number one i thought it must be when y=0 and I've tried substituting other numbers in but other than that i can't start. Can you please start me off?
 
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When you apply the quadatic formula what are you getting? If [tex]x_{12} = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex] then what does it mean if [tex]x_{12}[/tex] is complex? What about if [tex]x_{12}[/tex] is real? What condition yields a [tex]x_{12}[/tex] as complex? and which condition yields [tex]x_{12}[/tex] as real?
 
b has to be a real number but how can you work it out when there are two unknowns .. x is unknown and so is b
 
Using the quadratic formula FrogPad posted, pay special attention to the [tex]b^2-4ac[/tex] part.
 
You do not need to look at the complete quadratic formula, just the discriminant b2-4ac. Do you know the condition on the discriminant for the equation to have (i)two real roots; (ii) one real repeated root; (iii) no real roots (equivalent to saying the equation has complex roots)?
 
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wellY--3 said:
b has to be a real number but how can you work it out when there are two unknowns .. x is unknown and so is b

Yes, but that is before you take into account the 3 subtasks. If a graph touches the x-axis once, how does that affect the number of real solutions to the equation?
 
ooooooook so...
1. b=square root of 40
2 b is greater than square root of 40
3. b is less than square root of 40

is that right?
 

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