Solve Simultaneous Equations: Loop/Junction Eqns

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of simultaneous equations related to electrical currents, specifically involving three unknowns: i1, i2, and i3. Participants are attempting to set up and simplify the equations to find these unknowns.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss methods for simplifying the equations and express confusion about the setup and the steps to take next. Some are exploring the standard approach to solving simultaneous equations, while others are questioning the clarity of the problem and the reasoning behind certain steps taken.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on methods for reducing the number of equations and unknowns. There is a recognition of the need for clarity in the problem setup, and some participants are suggesting different approaches to reach a solution.

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There is mention of a professor's method that seems unclear to some participants, leading to confusion about how to proceed with the problem. The original poster has simplified the equations but is uncertain about the next steps.

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Homework Statement
Need help setting up the equations to solve for the unknowns. I get the general idea but not sure how to begin actually solving the problem
Relevant Equations
+1.56 - 43i1 - 75i2 = 0
+1.6 - 100i3 - 75i2 = 0
+i1 - i2 + i3 = 0——-> i1 + i3 = i2
+1.56 - 43i1 - 75i2 = 0
+1.6 - 100i3 - 75i2 = 0
+i1 - i2 + i3 = 0——-> i1 + i3 = i2
 
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The standard way to solve simultaneous equations is to get one of them into the form (unknown a)=(some function of the other remaining unknowns)
Then use that to replace unknown a in all of the remaining equations .
You now have a system with one fewer unknowns and one fewer equations. Repeat the process.
 
Um... What?
viv12345 said:
Need help setting up the equations to solve for the unknowns.
It looks like you've already done that. But you won't get useful help from us if we don't know the problem your trying to solve.

viv12345 said:
I get the general idea but not sure how to begin actually solving the problem
Are you asking how to solve this system of 3 equations and 3 unknowns?
 
DaveE said:
Are you asking how to solve this system of 3 equations and 3 unknowns?

Yea, so I need to solve for i1, i2, and i3. I simplified the first equation to 1.56-118i1-75i3=0 from 1.56-43i1-75(i1+i3)=0 and did the same for the second equation but I don't know where to go from there. I'm just trying to follow what my professor did but after simplifying the equations, he picked a random number with no explanation to solve the equation so I'm really confused.
 
viv12345 said:
Yea, so I need to solve for i1, i2, and i3. I simplified the first equation to 1.56-118i1-75i3=0 from 1.56-43i1-75(i1+i3)=0 and did the same for the second equation but I don't know where to go from there. I'm just trying to follow what my professor did but after simplifying the equations, he picked a random number with no explanation to solve the equation so I'm really confused.
Have you tried the method I described in post 2?
 
OK, you got an equation with two unknowns, i1 and i3. If you subtract your second equation from the first, you get another equation with the same two unknowns. This way, you reduce the three equations with three unknowns down to two equations with two unknowns. Can you continue and reduce them to one equation with one unknown?
 
Hill said:
OK, you got an equation with two unknowns, i1 and i3. If you subtract your second equation from the first, you get another equation with the same two unknowns.
Although that works, @viv12345 needs to learn the general method.
 
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haruspex said:
Although that works, @viv12345 needs to learn the general method.
Right. They also need to know that there often is more than one way to solve a problem.
 

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