Solve Torques and Tensions Homework for Monkey on Bar

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The discussion focuses on solving a torque and tension problem involving a horizontal bar supported by two strings with a monkey walking along it. The key equations used include torque (\tau = rFsin\theta) and thrust force (F_thrust = ma_t = mr\alpha). The participant concludes that the sum of tensions in the strings equals (3/2)mg, accounting for both the bar's weight and the monkey's weight. Choosing the pivot point at the location where T2 connects to the bar simplifies the torque equation by eliminating T2 from the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A horizontal uniform bar of mass m and length L is hung horizontally on two vertical strings. String 1 is attached to the end of the bar and string 2 is attached a distance L/4 from the other end. A monkey of mass m/2 walks from one end of the bar to the other. Find the tension T_1 in string 1 at the moment that the monkey is halfway between the ends of the bar.


Homework Equations


\tau = rFsin\theta
F_thrust = ma_t = mr\alpha


The Attempt at a Solution


In all honesty, I'm really not too sure where to start.
I drew a diagram of what is going on. I know at least that the tensions are going to add up to (3/2)mg, since there is the m of the bar pulling down and also the m/2 of the monkey pulling down and the system is in equilibrium.

So: T_1 + T_2 = 1.5mg
Becomes: T_1 = 1.5mg - T_2

Do I have to choose a pivot point? I was thinking where T_2 connects to the bar, because it was an answer to a question leading up to this, but I'm not exactly sure why? What effect does placing the pivot point here have in relation to T_2?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hi TA1068,

Whereever you place your pivot point, if there is a force (or more than one) acting at that point then that force produces no torque about that point (because the lever arm is zero). So that force or forces will not appear in the torque equation for that pivot point.

Because of that, quite often a good choice for the pivot point is at the place where an unknown force is acting because your equation will then have one less unknown variable.

So choosing the pivot point at the place where T2 pulls on the bar is a good choice. What do you get?
 
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