Solving 2nd Order Differential Equation: y'' - 4y = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation, specifically y'' - 4y = 0, with initial conditions provided at x = 0, where y = 1 and y' = -1. Participants are exploring methods to find the constants involved in the general solution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the characteristic equation derived from the differential equation and suggest different methods for solving the initial value problem. Some participants propose using a system of equations based on the initial conditions, while others express confusion over substitutions and the formulation of equations.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the relationships between the constants. Some participants have offered hints and suggestions for approaching the problem, while others are still grappling with their substitutions and the implications of their equations. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note issues with the forum platform, indicating potential distractions from the main discussion. There is also mention of the need for clarity in presenting the general solution to aid understanding.

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Homework Statement



[tex]y'' - 4y = 0[/tex] when y = 1, y' = -1, x = 0

2. The attempt at a solution

[tex]y'' - 4y = 0[/tex]

[tex]m^2 - 4 = 0[/tex]

[tex]m = 2, m = -2[/tex]

Substituting: [tex]y = 1, x = 0[/tex]

[tex]1 = C1 + C2[/tex]

[tex]C1 = -C2 + 1[/tex]

Substituting: [tex]y' = -1, x = 0[/tex]

[tex]-1 -C2 + 1 + C2[/tex]

[tex]C2 = C2[/tex]

Therefore: [tex]y = -C2e^2^x + C2e^-^2^x[/tex]

Obviously I went wrong with my substitutions... Can I get a hint?
 
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Try solving the initial value as a system of equations, maybe this will give you a better approach than substitution.
 
since m=+/-2
y is of the form
y=A(e^-2x)+B(e^2x)
y`=-2A(e^-2x)+2B(e^2x)
Use the given conditions. Make two equations... You know the rest.
Hope this helps.
Abdullah

Whats wrong with the forums? It won't allow me to start a new thread. It keeps saying:

The page your looking for can't be found.
Please go back to the homepage: https://www.physicsforums.com/
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thanks guys, I got it
 
snowJT said:

Homework Statement



[tex]y'' - 4y = 0[/tex] when y = 1, y' = -1, x = 0

2. The attempt at a solution

[tex]y'' - 4y = 0[/tex]

[tex]m^2 - 4 = 0[/tex]

[tex]m = 2, m = -2[/tex]
It would be a really smart idea to write out the general solution here:
y= C1e2x+ C2e-2x
Otherwise no one knows what the rest of this means!

Substituting: [tex]y = 1, x = 0[/tex]

[tex]1 = C1 + C2[/tex]
Okay, C1e0+ C2e0= C1+ C2= 1

[tex]C1 = -C2 + 1[/tex]

Substituting: [tex]y' = -1, x = 0[/tex]

[tex]-1 -C2 + 1 + C2[/tex]
Isn't there an "=" missing here?
If y(x)= C1e2x+ C2e-2x
then y'(x)= 2C1e2x- 2C2e-2x
so y'(0)= 2C1- 2C2= -1

[tex]C2 = C2[/tex]
Surely that's not what you meant to say!

Therefore: [tex]y = -C2e^2^x + C2e^-^2^x[/tex]

Obviously I went wrong with my substitutions... Can I get a hint?

You have C1+ C2= 1 and 2C1- 2C2= -1. Solve those two equations.
 
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