MHB Solving $(a+b+c)^2$ for Positive $a,b,c$

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The problem involves finding the value of \((a+b+c)^2\) given the equations \(a^2+b^2+ab=9\), \(b^2+c^2+bc=16\), and \(c^2+a^2+ca=25\) for positive real numbers \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\). By manipulating these equations, relationships between the variables are established, leading to a quadratic equation in terms of \(\Sigma^2\). The solutions to this equation yield \(\Sigma^2 = 25 + 12\sqrt{3}\) as the valid solution, since the other solution does not satisfy the conditions of the problem. The discussion highlights the elegance of the solution and the significance of the numbers involved. Overall, the evaluation of \((a+b+c)^2\) concludes with the result of \(25 + 12\sqrt{3}\).
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Given positive real values $a,\,b,\,c$ such that

$a^2+b^2+ab=9$

$b^2+c^2+bc=16$

$c^2+a^2+ca=25$

Evaluate $(a+b+c)^2$.

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anemone said:
Given positive real values $a,\,b,\,c$ such that

$a^2+b^2+ab=9\ \qquad (1)$

$b^2+c^2+bc=16\qquad(2)$

$c^2+a^2+ca=25\qquad(3)$

Evaluate $(a+b+c)^2$.
[sp]Let $\Sigma = a+b+c.$ Subtract (1) from (2): $c^2-a^2 + (c-a)b = 7,$ which can be written as $(c-a)\Sigma = 7.$ Thus $(c-a)^2 = \dfrac{49}{\Sigma^2}.$ Next, (3) can be written as $(c-a)^2 + 3ca = 25.$ Therefore $3ca = 25 - \dfrac{49}{\Sigma^2}.$

Applying the same tactics to the other pairs of variables, we get $3ab = 9 - \dfrac{81}{\Sigma^2}$ and $3bc = 16 - \dfrac{256}{\Sigma^2}.$

Next, add the three equations (1), (2), (3): $2(a^2+b^2+c^2) + ab + bc + ca = 50$, which can be written as $2\Sigma^2 - 3(ab+bc+ca) = 50.$ Subsitute the above expressions for $ca$, $ab$ and $bc$ to get $2\Sigma^2 - 50 + \dfrac{386}{\Sigma^2} = 50$, which reduces to $\Sigma^4 - 50 \Sigma^2 + 193 = 0.$ That quadratic equation has solutions $\Sigma^2 = 25 \pm 12\sqrt3.$ But $\Sigma^2 > (a+c)^2 > c^2+a^2 + ca = 25$, so $\Sigma^2$ cannot be equal to $25 - 12\sqrt3.$ Therefore $\Sigma^2 = 25 + 12\sqrt3.$[/sp]
 
Well done, Opalg! And thanks for participating!:)

I've another good solution to share with the members at MHB:
Note that the system of equations can be transformed into$a^2+b^2-2ab\cos 120^{\circ}=9$

$b^2+c^2-2bc\cos 120^{\circ}=16$

$c^2+a^2-2ca\cos 120^{\circ}=25$

We can then transform the problem into one of a geometrical nature by constructing segments of length $a,\,b$ and $c$ inside a $3-4-5$ triangle as shown:

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Next, using the fact that the area of any triangle is $\dfrac{xy\sin Z}{2}$, we get that

$\dfrac{ab\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}+\dfrac{bc\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}+\dfrac{ca\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{3}(ab+bc+ca)}{2(2)}=6$ and so $ab+bc+ca=8\sqrt{3}$.

Adding all three original equations together yields

$2(a^2+b^2+c^2)+ab+bc+ca=50$

Plugging the value of $ab+bc+ca$ in and simlyflying gives $a^2+b^2+c^2=25-4\sqrt{3}$, finally,

$(a+b+c)^2=a^2+b^2+c^2+2(a+bc+ca)=25-4\sqrt{3}+2(8\sqrt{3})=25+12\sqrt{3}$.
 

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anemone said:
Well done, Opalg! And thanks for participating!:)

I've another good solution to share with the members at MHB:
Note that the system of equations can be transformed into$a^2+b^2-2ab\cos 120^{\circ}=9$

$b^2+c^2-2bc\cos 120^{\circ}=16$

$c^2+a^2-2ca\cos 120^{\circ}=25$

We can then transform the problem into one of a geometrical nature by constructing segments of length $a,\,b$ and $c$ inside a $3-4-5$ triangle as shown:

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/2861
Next, using the fact that the area of any triangle is $\dfrac{xy\sin Z}{2}$, we get that

$\dfrac{ab\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}+\dfrac{bc\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}+\dfrac{ca\sin 120^{\circ}}{2}=\dfrac{\sqrt{3}(ab+bc+ca)}{2(2)}=6$ and so $ab+bc+ca=8\sqrt{3}$.

Adding all three original equations together yields

$2(a^2+b^2+c^2)+ab+bc+ca=50$

Plugging the value of $ab+bc+ca$ in and simlyflying gives $a^2+b^2+c^2=25-4\sqrt{3}$, finally,

$(a+b+c)^2=a^2+b^2+c^2+2(a+bc+ca)=25-4\sqrt{3}+2(8\sqrt{3})=25+12\sqrt{3}$.
Very elegant solution! I suspected that the numbers 9, 16, 25 ought to have some significance in this problem, but I could not see how.
 
Opalg said:
Very elegant solution! I suspected that the numbers 9, 16, 25 ought to have some significance in this problem, but I could not see how.

Thank you, Opalg for your compliment! I know I'm not the solver, but when you or any other members who liked my shared solutions (that are of others' production), I feel very delighted and happy! The number one and foremost reason that fuels my happiness is I love to be acknowledged by the fact that there are members who also liked and enjoyed that particular challenge problem as much as I did!:o
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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