Solving a Derivative Problem using Chain Rule and Logarithmic Differentiation

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y = [log(a, x^2)]^2 using the chain rule and logarithmic differentiation. Participants are exploring the implications of logarithmic properties in the context of calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the initial differentiation attempt and question its correctness. Some suggest using logarithmic properties to simplify the problem before differentiation, while others explore the change of base formula for logarithms to facilitate finding derivatives.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants offering alternative methods and confirming the validity of certain steps. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify and refine the understanding of the differentiation process.

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Participants note the use of specific logarithmic laws and the potential for simplification in the differentiation process. There is an emphasis on the importance of correctly applying these laws to avoid complications in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Assume the notation log(a, x) implies log base a of x, where a is a constant (since I don't know LaTeX).

PROBLEM:
If y = [log(a, x^2)]^2, determine y'.

Homework Equations



Chain Rule and Logarithmic Differentiation

The Attempt at a Solution



y' = 2(log(a, x^2)) * (1/[(x^2)lna]) * (2x) = (8log(a,x))/(xlna)

Is this the correct approach and solution?
 
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S.R said:

Homework Statement



Assume the notation log(a, x) implies log base a of x, where a is a constant (since I don't know LaTeX).

PROBLEM:
If y = [log(a, x^2)]^2, determine y'.


Homework Equations



Chain Rule and Logarithmic Differentiation


The Attempt at a Solution



y' = 2(log(a, x^2)) * (1/[(x^2)lna]) * (2x) = (8log(a,x))/(xlna)

Is this the correct approach and solution?

Your approach and answer are both correct. If I may offer an alternate approach, try using the log law ##\log_ax^2=2\log_a x## at the beginning and see how that changes the rest of the problem. It's my experience that making good use of log laws at the beginning of some calculus problems makes them a little more manageable.
 
Thanks for the response. I noticed the implementation of log laws in WolframAlpha's solution where log(a,x^2) was rewritten ln(x^2)/lna.
 
gopher_p is correct: using the log law loga x2 = 2loga x does make for easier computation.

however, if you set u = loga x2 then your equation would become y = u2

so then, y'(x) = du/dx * 2u

the only "tricky" part is finding du/dx, but as S.R mentioned, you can just use the change of base formula for the logarithm...which makes it much easier to find du/dx...

u = loga x2

= (log10 x2)/(log10 a)

= (log x2)/(log a)

...then just differentiate with respect to x to find du/dx

so yes, this is definitely the correct approach to the solution!
 
Of course, it is much simpler to first use the fact that log_a(x^2)= 2log_a(x) and then differentiate.
 
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