Solving a Moment Vector Direction Problem: An Example from Statics Textbook

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on a moment vector direction problem presented in a statics textbook. The user expresses confusion regarding the direction of the couple moment when moving a force to a point not on the line of action. They utilize the Right-Hand Rule (RHR) to analyze the situation but conclude that the textbook's depiction of the moment vector direction is incorrect unless a negative force is applied. The user demonstrates a clear understanding of the underlying concepts but struggles with the specific example provided.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of static equilibrium principles
  • Familiarity with moment vectors and their directions
  • Knowledge of the Right-Hand Rule (RHR) for determining moment directions
  • Basic concepts of force systems and equivalent systems in statics
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  • Review the application of the Right-Hand Rule in various static scenarios
  • Study examples of equivalent force systems in statics
  • Explore the concept of moment vectors in three-dimensional space
  • Analyze common mistakes in interpreting moment vector directions in statics problems
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Students and professionals in engineering, particularly those studying statics, mechanics, or related fields, will benefit from this discussion. It is especially relevant for individuals seeking to deepen their understanding of moment vectors and static equilibrium.

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Homework Statement
Moving a force to a point not on the line of action
Relevant Equations
M = FD
This isn’t a HW problem per say, but it’s an example shown in my statics textbook that is used to try an explain that you need to add a couple moment to move a force to a point not on the line of action, and I’m just not seeing how the direction of the couple moment is correct. See the image below:

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Using the RHR (extending r1 and crossing into F1)and adding an opposite pair of forces at the point you are moving the force to (point “O”), the direction of the moment vector to me looks like it should be pointing to the left (into page, clockwise moment)….but the book is showing the opposite. The only way I see that moment vector direction being correct is if -F is applied What am I not seeing here? I feel like I understand the concept, but this specific example is tripping me up.
 
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This is the preceding example given, and this makes 100% sense to me. You add equal and opposite forces to the point you are moving the force to, and you still end up with an equivalent system: a downward force and a clockwise couple moment. So I know I get it….I just don’t know what I’m not seeing in the other example they give.

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Drawing (a) is poorly constructed and it seems that the directions of the vector moments have little to do with that tridimensional representation.
Those r's and F's must be perpendicular to each other for Mo=rxF.
 

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