Solving Adiabatic Process Problem: Find Final Volume & Pressure

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The discussion revolves around solving an adiabatic process problem involving oxygen gas, where the initial conditions include 0.10 moles of O2 at 150°C and 3.0 atm. The user initially calculated the initial volume using the ideal gas law, arriving at 1.156 x 10^(-3) m^3, but later recognized an error in the final volume calculation, suggesting it should be higher due to the gas expansion. The final volume was recalculated using the correct initial volume and the adiabatic relation, yielding a value of approximately 1.90 x 10^(-3) m^3. The user expressed confusion over an extremely low final temperature of 2.5 K, indicating a miscalculation in the process. The discussion highlights the importance of accurate volume values in thermodynamic calculations.
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I have this problem and I do not have the answer, but I get an answer that I feel is probably wrong, so can someone please check my work and point out where I went wrong??

Here is the problem:
moles = 0.10 of O_2
T(initial) = 150 C = 423 K
P(initial) = 3.0 atm = 303.9 KPa

The gas expands adiabatically until the pressure is halved, find the final volume and final pressure

Since the pressure is halved, we know that
P(final) = 1.5 atm = 151.95 KPa

I need the initial volume, so I used the ideal gas equation, PV = nRT
using the initial conditions with P in pascals, n in mols, T in kelvin, and R as 8.31 J/mol*K

So I get a V(initial) = 1.156 x 10^(-3) m^3

Then I need the final volume, and since this is adiabatic,
Pi(Vi)^(gamma)=Pf(Vf)^(gamma)

Since O_2 is diatomic and we assume ideal conditions, gamma = 1.4

So using the above equation, I find
V(final) = 1.37 x 10^(-5) m^3 = answer to part a
I don't know if this is right or wrong

Then for part b, I used the idea gas equaion again, PV=nRT
Using the final volume, final pressure, same n and same R, I get
T = 2.50 K

Obviously this is extremely COLD! I don't think it makes sense that the temperature would drop from 423 K to 2.5 K...where did I go wrong?
 
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Spectre5 said:
So I get a V(initial) = 1.156 x 10^(-3) m^3

Then I need the final volume, and since this is adiabatic,
Pi(Vi)^(gamma)=Pf(Vf)^(gamma)

Since O_2 is diatomic and we assume ideal conditions, gamma = 1.4

So using the above equation, I find
V(final) = 1.37 x 10^(-5) m^3 = answer to part a
I don't know if this is right or wrong

The final volume can not be right, as it is much lower than the initial volume, and the gas has expanded.

P_{initial}/P_{final}=(V_{final}/V_{initial})^{1.4}=2

V_{final}/V_{initial}=2^{1/1.4}=1.641

V_{final}=1.970 \cdot10^{-3}\mbox{ } m^3

ehild
 
Yes, I just realized that at the same time you posted...

I used the wrong initial volume (actually I just used 1.156 instead of 1.156 x 10^-3

:/

thanks

btw..it is 1.90 x 10^-3 I think, not 1.970...probably just a typo though :)
 
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Spectre5 said:
btw..it is 1.90 x 10^-3 I think, not 1.970...probably just a typo though :)
Well, yes, it was 1.897 and I left out the "8" :)

ehild
 
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