Solving Algebra equation 3x=15

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The discussion revolves around solving the algebraic equation 3x = 15. Participants explore various methods and interpretations of the solution process, addressing both the correct approach and misunderstandings related to algebraic manipulation.

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  • One participant requests help with the equation 3x = 15 and presents a misunderstanding in their workings, suggesting 15 divided by 3x equals 5x.
  • Another participant correctly identifies that x can be found by dividing both sides of the equation by 3, leading to x = 5.
  • A third participant critiques the initial misunderstanding, emphasizing that 3x is not equal to 5x unless x = 0, and clarifies the proper method to isolate x.
  • A later reply acknowledges the correct advice given but raises a concern about a specific phrase regarding operations on both sides of the equation, citing a past student error as an example.
  • Another participant counters that adding to the numerator is not the same as performing an operation on the entire side of the equation.

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Participants generally agree on the correct method to solve the equation, but there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of operations performed on both sides of an equation and the implications of those operations.

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There are unresolved nuances regarding the phrasing of algebraic operations and their implications, particularly in relation to how participants interpret the rules of manipulating equations.

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Can anyone please help me with this equation 3x =15
My workings ;3x=15

Any help is appreciated, thanks
= 5x, as 15 divide by 3x=5x
 
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3x = 15

x = 15/3

x = 5
 
Victor23 said:
Can anyone please help me with this equation 3x =15
My workings ;3x=15

Any help is appreciated, thanks
= 5x, as 15 divide by 3x=5x
This makes no sense! In the first place, what does it mean to divide by an equation?
In the second place, 3x is NOT equal to 5x unless x= 0. There is nothing here that says either x= 0 or 3x= 5x.

To "solve for x" means to get x by itself: "x= something".

In the original equation, 3x= 15, x is not "by itself" because it is multiplied by 3. To get x "by itself" we need to "undo" that- and we undo "multiply by 3" by dividing by 3. And, of course, anything we do to one side of the equation we must do to the other.

Rather than "15 divided by 3x= 5x" you should have said "15 divided by 3 is 5".
Dividing both sides of 3x= 15 by 3 gives
(3x)/3= 15/3

x= 5.
 
HallsofIvy has given the correct advice for solving this equation ... but ... I'm going to take an epsilon amount of issue with one phrase ... "anything we do to one side of the equation we must do to the other". I've said this myself in Algebra classes but I paid for it once. I had a student solve an equation in the following way:

$$\dfrac{x-1}{6}=\dfrac{1}{3}$$

$$\dfrac{x}{6}=\dfrac{2}{3}$$

$$x = \dfrac{2}{3} \cdot 6 = 4$$

When I pressed him on what he did, he said "in the second step I added one to the numerator of both sides of the equation and anything I do to one side of an equation must be done to the other side of the equation ... which is what you said ... so it must be correct."
 
Thank you! I would argue that "adding 1 to the numerator" is "doing something" to the numerator, not to the "left side of the equation".
 

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