Solving Algebraic Equations Involving Logarithms

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The discussion revolves around solving algebraic equations involving logarithms, specifically focusing on equations like Log4(a2 + 2) = Log4(2a + 10) and similar logarithmic expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method of equating logarithmic expressions and the implications of applying inverse functions. There is an exploration of the properties of logarithms and their application in solving the equations.

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Some participants provide guidance on the correct approach to solving the equations, while others question assumptions about the positivity of variables involved. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored without a clear consensus.

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There is a mention of the need for certain expressions to be positive, which raises questions about the conditions under which solutions are valid. Participants are also navigating through the implications of logarithmic properties in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Solve Algebraically:

Log(subscript4) (a^2 + 2) = Log(subscript 4) (2a + 10)


Homework Equations


other equations that are similar which I can't do are:
Solve Algebraically:

-Log(subscript 5) (x + 3) + Log(subscript 5) (x - 2) = Log(subscript 5) 14

-Log(subscript 2) (2x + 6) - Log(subscript 2) x = 3




The Attempt at a Solution


not sure if this is right but I think you would divide by Log(subscript 4)
Log(subscript4) (a^2 + 2) = Log(subscript 4) (2a + 10)
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Log(subscript4) Log(subscript4)

canceled those out leaving:
a^2 + 2 = 2a + 10

expand the equation:
this is where i get lost, unless I am doing it completely wrong. Please help.
 
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Your solution is essentially right, but the formalism is painfully wrong. If f(x)=f(y) you cannot divide by f. You have to apply the inverse function of f. The inverse of Log(subscript4) is 4^. As in 4^(Log(subscript4)(x))=x. And a^2 + 2 = 2a + 10
is a harmless quadratic equation. Don't get confused there, just factor it or use the quadratic equation.
 
When doing log equations, you should try to remember all the formulae. Some useful are:

(1) logab + logac = loga(bc)
(2) logab - logac = loga(b / c)
(3) loga(bc) = c loga(b)
(4) The change base formula:
\log_{a}b = \frac{\log_{c}b}{\log_{c}a}

(5) Since logarithm is either strictly increasing or strictly decreasing (i.e, 1-1 function), we have:
\log_a b = \log_a c \Leftrightarrow b = c

You cannot divide logab by loga to get b, it's as meaningless as saying that:
\frac{\sin x}{\sin} = x

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I'll help you do the first one, and let you try the other 2 by yourself. See if you can get it. :)

log4 (a2 + 2) = log4 (2a + 10)
Using (5), we have:
<=> a2 + 2 = 2a + 10
<=> a2 - 2a - 8 = 0
\Leftrightarrow a = 4 \quad \mbox{or} \quad a = -2
a2 + 2, and 2a + 10 should all be positive. And both values satisfy the requirements, so we have 2 solutions:
a = 4 \quad \mbox{or} \quad a = -2

Is it cear?
Can you do the other 2? :)
 
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VietDao, why should a be positive? You need a2+2 and 2a+10 to be positive, you don't need a to be positive. Note, those expressions are positive for both a=4 and a=-2.
 
AKG said:
VietDao, why should a be positive? You need a2+2 and 2a+10 to be positive, you don't need a to be positive. Note, those expressions are positive for both a=4 and a=-2.

Whoops, I thought that a was the base :blushing: :cry:. Er... stand corrected. :smile:
Thanks. :blushing:
 

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