Solving Cable Tension and Moment Magnitude Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in cable AC given a tension of 100 lb in cable AB and a required moment magnitude of 1500 ft-lb about the origin. Participants clarify the need to express the forces in Cartesian coordinates and utilize the moment equation M = r × F. They derive the position vectors for points A, B, and C, and calculate the vectors for cables AB and AC. The confusion lies in whether to break down the 100 lb tension into components for the cross product calculation. Ultimately, the solution involves finding the moments for both cables and combining them to achieve the desired moment about the origin.
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Homework Statement


http://books.google.ca/books?id=nYR... you want the magnitude of the moment&f=false
The above link has a copy of the question. It is question 4.65 on page 144

If you can't see the picture here is the needed information:
pointA(0,8,0)-on tree
pointB(0,0,10)
pointC(14,0,14)

There is a cable from A to B with a tension of 100lb and onother cable from A to C with an unknown tention. If the magnitude of the moment about the origin(0,0,0) is 1500 ft-lb, what is the tension on rope AC?


Homework Equations


M=r * F


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the moment is equal to the position vector *(cross) the force in cartesian form, but how do you express the 100lb foce in rope AB in cartesian form? Do i even need to?

Also to find the final answer I am thining you have the equation:

1500 = the sum of both moment forces
 
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Hi sapphire4770, welcome to PF.
Position vector OA = 0i+8j+0k
Position vector OB = 0i +0j + 10k
Position vector OC = 14i + 0j + 14K
Vector AB = OB - OA. Similarly
Vector AC = OC - OA.
Now find the moments,
 
Thanks for the help, but I'm still kinda confused.

Ok, so the vectors would be:
AB: [0,-8,10] or -8j +10k
AC: [14,-8,14] or 14i - 8i + 14k

To find the moment caused by AC do i simply multiply? 100[0,-8,10]? Or do i have to split up the 100 lb tension into its x y and z components and find the cross product?

Thanks again, any help is greatly appreciated!
 
Find the vector OA. = 8(0i + j + 0k)
Find unit vector along AB and AC.
So the vector AB = 100/sqrt(164)[0i -8j + 10k]
The moment of AB about o is OAXAB.
Similarly find the vector AC and moment of AC about O. Since both of them are in the counterclockwise direction, add them to get net momentum.
 
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