Solving Circuit with Superposition Theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a circuit using the superposition theorem, specifically focusing on finding the current through the R2 branch. Participants explore circuit analysis techniques, including the combination of resistors and the application of voltage and current divider formulas.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting from the opposite end of the circuit and combining the parallel resistors R2 and R3, questioning whether R1 and XL are in parallel.
  • Another participant clarifies that while R1 and XL are not in parallel, XL is in parallel with the combination of (R1 + R2//R3), which is then in series with XC.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about applying the voltage divider formula correctly to find the current through R2, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships between branches.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the voltage divider and emphasizes that superposition allows for different voltages and phases from sources to be combined.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the superposition theorem and the need for careful circuit analysis, but there are uncertainties regarding the application of specific formulas and the relationships between components, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of the voltage divider formula and the implications of different voltages and phases from the sources, which may affect their calculations.

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I was working on this circuit.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3537/imptm6.jpg

The problem asks to find the current through the R2 branch...

Heres my approach and questions...

Start from the opposite end of the circuit...combine the 2 parallel resistors R2 and R3...the V2 goes to zero because of the superposition...

The only question I had was are R1 and XL in parallel?...if so I could combine the R2 and R3 total found with R1..using product sum rule...

Finally add XC to (XL)(R1)/(XL + R1)...to get the total impedence

than from there find the current...(current divider)
 
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Jason03 said:
I was working on this circuit.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3537/imptm6.jpg

The problem asks to find the current through the R2 branch...

Heres my approach and questions...

Start from the opposite end of the circuit...combine the 2 parallel resistors R2 and R3...the V2 goes to zero because of the superposition...

The only question I had was are R1 and XL in parallel?...if so I could combine the R2 and R3 total found with R1..using product sum rule...

Finally add XC to (XL)(R1)/(XL + R1)...to get the total impedence

than from there find the current...(current divider)

When determining the contribution of V1, R1 and XL are not in parallel, however, XL *is* in parallel with (R1+R2//R3). This combined resistance is then in series with XC. Unless you want to do a source transform on V1 to get a current divider.

Here's the secret to source transform (or any circuit analysis, for that matter): draw, redraw, and redraw circuits (after every transformation / simplification). Unless you can get to the point where you can just do things by inspection. Also, learn to draw things neatly, otherwise, it won't be worth all the extra paper.

EDIT: You don't mention this explicitly in your post, so I'll assume you've determined the contribution of V2 in the absence of V1...
 
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ok thanks...now I understand that part...

I calculated Z total for the first source...now to find the current total for the first source only through branch R2...I know I can use the voltage divider formula...but I don't remember how...

I know I have to find the relationships between the branches (except R2)...multiply..divide...and multiply that total by the current total already found...

I just don't remember how to apply the voltage divider formula correctly...

( I started finding Z for source 2 and it appears to be the same as source 1?...is that correct?.,...the difference would be in finding the current considering the sources are at different voltages and phases..)
 
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Jason03 said:
ok thanks...now I understand that part...

I calculated Z total for the first source...now to find the current total for the first source only through branch R2...I know I can use the voltage divider formula...but I don't remember how...

I know I have to find the relationships between the branches (except R2)...multiply..divide...and multiply that total by the current total already found...

I just don't remember how to apply the voltage divider formula correctly...

( I started finding Z for source 2 and it appears to be the same as source 1?...is that correct?.,...the difference would be in finding the current considering the sources are at different voltages and phases..)

You need a formula for voltage divider?! :-D The ratio of the potential drop in two resistors (impedances) is the same as the ratio of their resistances (impedances). Or, V_drop_Z1 = V_source*Z1/(Z1+Z2). Remember, that's just the voltage DROP, not necessarily the nodal voltage measured relative to ground (or another reference). See other threads in this forum on that topic if you're still stuck...

Regarding your other point, superposition says that it's okay if the sources are at different voltages and phases. Their individual contributions just add up (superpose) and the total is what you actually measure when you hook up your oscilloscope.
 

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