Solving Complex Numbers: Sketching the Line |z − u| = |z|

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The discussion revolves around sketching the line described by the equation |z − u| = |z|, where z is defined as x + jy and u as -1 + j√3. Participants are exploring the properties of complex numbers and their magnitudes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to manipulate the equation involving complex numbers and question the presence of the imaginary unit in the context of absolute values. There are discussions about the correct interpretation of |z| and its implications for the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the definitions of absolute values in complex numbers, while others are questioning their understanding of the problem setup. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, and some participants express uncertainty about their approaches.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of misinterpretations regarding the definitions of complex number components and their representations. Participants are navigating through these definitions while attempting to clarify their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Sketch the line described by the equation:
|z − u| = |z|

z = x+jy
u = −1 + j√3





The Attempt at a Solution



(x+1)^2 + j(y-√3)^2 = (x+jy)^2



I just don't quite get where to go with this
please give me a headstart
 
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kiwi101 said:

Homework Statement



Sketch the line described by the equation:
|z − u| = |z|

z = x+jy
u = −1 + j√3





The Attempt at a Solution



(x+1)^2 + j(y-√3)^2 = (x+jy)^2



I just don't quite get where to go with this
please give me a headstart

|z|^2=(x^2+y^2). There is no j in there. There shouldn't be any j in the left hand side either. It's an absolute value.
 
oh yeah
and um did you mean |z|^2=(x+y)^2?
 
kiwi101 said:
oh yeah
and um did you mean |z|^2=(x+y)^2?

Definitely not! |z|=sqrt(x^2+y^2). Look it up.
 
Dick said:
|z|^2=(x^2+y^2). There is no j in there. There shouldn't be any j in the left hand side either. It's an absolute value.

kiwi101 said:
oh yeah
and um did you mean |z|^2=(x+y)^2?

If z = x + iy, then |z|2 = x2 + y2, which is what Dick wrote. kiwi101, it looks like you need to review the definition of the absolute value or magnitude of a complex number.
 
I was just about to write a long argument about how I was right and then I realized you're right. I misinterpreted something.

So this is what I have done, I feel its right.

(x+1)^2 + (y-√3)^2 = x^2 + y^2

x^2 + 2x + 1 + y^2 -2√3y + 3 = x^2 + y^2

2x + 1 -2√3y + 3 = 0

(x+2)/√3 = y

and then rationalize it and this is the equation of the line?
 
kiwi101 said:
I was just about to write a long argument about how I was right and then I realized you're right. I misinterpreted something.

So this is what I have done, I feel its right.

(x+1)^2 + (y-√3)^2 = x^2 + y^2

x^2 + 2x + 1 + y^2 -2√3y + 3 = x^2 + y^2

2x + 1 -2√3y + 3 = 0

(x+2)/√3 = y

and then rationalize it and this is the equation of the line?

That looks ok to me.
 
Thanks!
Out of curiosity this question:

Sketch the line or curve described by the equation
ℜe{z} + ℑm{z} = ℜe{u}

would be x + jy = -1 ?

so is this a line or what?
 
Wait do I solve for y and then rationalize like

y = (-1 -x)/j
 
  • #10
kiwi101 said:
Wait do I solve for y and then rationalize like

y = (-1 -x)/j

Im(z)=y, not jy. Check the definition again.
 
  • #11
I just assumed that since it says Im(z) it meant to include the imaginary iota.

So then I guess it is just a line y = -1-x
 
  • #12
kiwi101 said:
I just assumed that since it says Im(z) it meant to include the imaginary iota.

So then I guess it is just a line y = -1-x

Yep!
 
  • #13
Thanks once again! :)
 

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