Solving Epsilon Delta Proof: |x^2 - 9| < ε

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The discussion revolves around proving the epsilon-delta condition for the expression |x^2 - 9| < ε, given the constraint |x-3| < ε/7 and 0 < x ≤ 7. Participants are exploring the nuances of epsilon-delta proofs in calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial steps taken to manipulate the inequality |x^2 - 9| and question the validity of their assumptions. There is a focus on how to correctly apply the epsilon-delta definition and the implications of the constraints on x.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the assumptions made in the problem setup. Some have provided insights into the implications of the constraints on x, while others are seeking clarification on how to proceed with the proof.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern regarding the original problem statement and its constraints, with suggestions that the conditions might need adjustment for a valid proof. Participants are also reflecting on the logical structure of their arguments in relation to the epsilon-delta definition.

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Homework Statement



if |x-3| < ε/7 and 0 < x ≤ 7 prove that |x^2 - 9| < ε

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The Attempt at a Solution



So ths is what I did so far.

|x+3|*|x-3| < ε (factored out the |x^2 - 9|)

|x+3|*|x-3| < |x+3|* ε/7 < ε (used the fact that |x-3| < ε/7)

|x+3|* ε/7 *7 < ε*7|x-3| < ε/7*7 (multiplied both sides of the inequality by 7)

I suck at epsilon delta proofs and have no idea where to go from here.
 
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kramer733 said:

Homework Statement



if |x-3| < ε/7 and 0 < x ≤ 7 prove that |x^2 - 9| < ε

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So ths is what I did so far.

|x+3|*|x-3| < ε (factored out the |x^2 - 9|)

|x+3|*|x-3| < |x+3|* ε/7 < ε (used the fact that |x-3| < ε/7)

|x+3|* ε/7 *7 < ε*7|x-3| < ε/7*7 (multiplied both sides of the inequality by 7)

I suck at epsilon delta proofs and have no idea where to go from here.
It looks to me like the problem should read something like:
if |x-3| < ε/7 and 0 < x-3 ≤ 1, prove that |x2 - 9| < ε​
Otherwise you can only show that |x2 - 9| < (10/7) ε .

More importantly, you are to prove that |x2 - 9| < ε. The way you are trying to go about this is to assume the fact which you are trying to prove. That is not a valid way to go about this.

Added in Edit:

I had a typo originally. See the correction in Red.
 
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How do i get started on this proof then/?
 
kramer733 said:
How do i get started on this proof then/?

If x-3 ≤ 1, what does that say about x+3 ?
 
x+3<7
 
kramer733 said:
x+3<7
Correct.

I suppose I should have asked "What if -1 ≤ x-3 ≤ 1" or any suitable left hand value.

So, if 5 ≤ x+3 ≤ 7, then you can definitely say that |x+3| ≤ 7 . Correct?
 
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