Solving Equation w/ L'Hopital's Rule When x = 0

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In summary, the conversation discusses solving an equation with a term that equals zero and the possibility of using L'Hopital's rule to calculate it. The equation in question is k = (pA/x) * [(V/(V-Ax))^y - 1] and the individual is trying to solve it when x = 0. They mention that plugging in 0 for x results in 0/0 and that they are considering using l'Hopital's rule, but are unsure of how to proceed. Another individual suggests expanding the expression in the square brackets in powers of x as an alternative to using l'Hopital's rule. However, the person still wants to know how to use the rule and is advised to
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Homework Statement



I have an equation in which a term equals zero and in this case the whole equations equals zero. I know it is possible to use the L'Hopital's rule to calculate the equation but having I'm having a little trouble.

Homework Equations



The equation I would like to is the following:

[tex]k = \frac{pA}{x}*[(\frac{V}{V-Ax})^y - 1][/tex]

I have to solve this when x = 0;


The Attempt at a Solution



Plugging in 0 for x, results in 0, which should not be the answer. I figure it is possible to use the L'Hopitals rule, but currently only my denominator has the x term which would be approaching zero. But in order to use the rule I would have to manipulate the equation for both the numerator and denominator to approach zero?
 
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Instead of using de L'Hospital's rule you can (equivalently) expand the expression in the square brackets in powers of [itex]x[/itex]. This should help!
 
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But if I would still like to use L'Hopital's rule, how should I proceed?
 
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Differentiate the numerator wrt x

Plugging in 0 for x, results in 0
Not true. It results in 0/0 !
 
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Fluidman117 said:
But if I would still like to use L'Hopital's rule, how should I proceed?

Your function is ##f(x)## is of the form
[tex] f(x) = \frac{N(x)}{x}, \;\; N(x) = pA\left[ \left(\frac{V}{V-Ax}\right)^y -1\right] [/tex]
When you use l'Hospital's rule (not l'Hopital!) you compute
[tex] \lim_{x \to 0} f(x) = \frac{N'(0)}{1},[/tex]
so all you are really doing is just taking the first term of the series expansion of ##N(x)##. l'Hospital and series expansion are really the same thing.
 
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FAQ: Solving Equation w/ L'Hopital's Rule When x = 0

What is L'Hopital's Rule?

L'Hopital's Rule is a mathematical theorem that allows us to evaluate the limit of a function by taking the derivative of the numerator and the denominator separately and then evaluating the limit again.

When can L'Hopital's Rule be used?

L'Hopital's Rule can be used when we have a fraction with a zero in the numerator and/or the denominator and the limit of the fraction is indeterminate (i.e. 0/0 or ∞/∞).

Can L'Hopital's Rule be used for any type of function?

No, L'Hopital's Rule can only be used for functions that are differentiable (i.e. have a well-defined derivative) in the given interval.

How many times can L'Hopital's Rule be applied?

L'Hopital's Rule can be applied multiple times as long as the resulting limit remains indeterminate. However, it is important to note that blindly applying L'Hopital's Rule multiple times may lead to incorrect results, so it should be used with caution.

Is L'Hopital's Rule the only method for solving limits?

No, L'Hopital's Rule is one of many methods for solving limits. Other methods include using algebraic manipulation, evaluating the limit at a nearby point, or using trigonometric identities.

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