Solving for Logarithmic Decrement in LCR Circuits

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order linear differential equation related to LCR circuits, specifically focusing on the logarithmic decrement of charge between successive maxima. The original poster presents a solution for charge Q(t) but seeks clarification on determining the time interval Td between these maxima.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the solution presented by the original poster and suggest focusing on the behavior of the cosine function to identify maxima. There is also a consideration of the relationship between the decay constant and the natural frequency in the context of the maxima.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationship between the terms in the solution and the conditions for identifying maxima. Some guidance has been offered regarding the phase of the cosine function and the impact of the exponential decay on the maxima.

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There is an implicit assumption regarding the relationship between the decay constant and the natural frequency, which may affect the identification of successive maxima. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correct method for finding Td.

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Homework Statement



Basically, I have LQ''(t) + RQ'(t) + (1/C)Q(t)=0, and I'm supposed to

"Show that the ration of the charge Q between two successive maxima is given by exp(RTd/2L), where Td is the time between two successive maxima. The natural logarithm of this ration is called the logarithmic decrement.


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So I got a solution Q(t)=e(-Rt)/(2L) [ C1cos( (√(R2-4L/C) )/(2L)t) + C2sin( (√(R2-4L/C) )/(2L)t).

But I can't figure out how to find Td. I mean, I could always find t when dQ/dt=0; but then I'd have to plug two values of t back into Q(t) and find the difference, and ... So what's the right way to do this?
 
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First notice the sin & cos terms have the same argument & the choice of c1 & c2 will just choose an overall phase. So for this argument set c2 = 0.

Then the maxima will just be where cos is maximum and successive maxima will occur where the argument of cos has changed by 2pi
 
lanedance said:
First notice the sin & cos terms have the same argument & the choice of c1 & c2 will just choose an overall phase. So for this argument set c2 = 0.

Then the maxima will just be where cos is maximum and successive maxima will occur where the argument of cos has changed by 2pi

Not exactly. The max's don't agree with the max's of the cosine, but the right idea. To the OP, just look at e-btcos(at+c).
 
good pickup thanks - They will be pretty close when the natural frequency is much larger that the decay constant, but you do need to take the exponential into account
 
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