Solving for potential using surface charge density of a sphere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential using the surface charge density of a sphere. Participants are examining the relationship between electric field strength and charge density, specifically in the context of electrostatics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the electric field strength from surface charge density and are questioning the validity of different formulas presented in their textbook. There is a focus on understanding the correct application of these formulas in various contexts.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the formulas being used, particularly regarding a factor of 2 in the electric field strength calculation. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct relationships and definitions related to surface charge density and electric fields.

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There is mention of different symbols for charge density (rho for volume charge density and sigma for surface charge density), which may contribute to confusion in the application of the formulas. Participants are also referencing textbook material that may not align with their current understanding.

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I'm trying to solve for the potential of a charged copper sphere with only radius and electric field strength known. The field lines are directed into the sphere.
Radius of the sphere: 0.2 m
Electric Field Strength at the surface of the sphere: 3800 N/C
Answer = half of my solution's value.
Relevant Equations
rho = Q/A
Surface area = 4pi(r^2)
Electric Field strength = rho/2(epsilon nought) OR kQ/r^2
Electric potential = kQ/r
surfafce area = 0.502

E = -q/A2(en) = 3800
-q = 3800*(A2(en))
-q = 1.68*10^(-8)
-q = 3.37*10^(-8)

V = kq/r
V = (9.0*10^9)(-3.37*10^(-8))/0.2
V = -1519 V
 
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BuggyWungos said:
Electric Field strength = rho/2(epsilon nought)
This is not the correct formula for the electric field at the surface. This is where your mistake of a factor of 2 occurs.
 
TSny said:
This is not the correct formula for the electric field at the surface. This is where your mistake of a factor of 2 occurs.
What is the correct electric field strength formula using rho? I understand that E = rho/(epsilon nought) would give the correct answer, but the formula I was given in my textbook was E = 2(pi)k(rho), which would simplify to E = rho/2(epsilon nought). Is the above formula used for another situation?
 
BuggyWungos said:
What is the correct electric field strength formula using rho? I understand that E = rho/(epsilon nought) would give the correct answer, but the formula I was given in my textbook was E = 2(pi)k(rho), which would simplify to E = rho/2(epsilon nought). Is the above formula used for another situation?
##E= \dfrac{ \sigma}{2 \varepsilon_0}## gives the field of an infinite plane with uniform surface charge density ##\sigma##. (The symbol ##\rho## is more often used for a volume charge density rather than a surface charge density.)

The field at a point just outside the surface of a conductor in electrostatic equilibrium is ##E=\dfrac{\sigma}{\varepsilon_0}##. This can be derived using Gauss’ law.
 
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