Solving for V3: Finding the Velocity of Point Z3

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To find the velocity of point Z3, the discussion highlights the need for additional information, such as time or initial position, to relate V3 with V1 and V2 effectively. The participants emphasize that the problem requires knowledge of relative velocity and that the given equations alone are insufficient. One analogy compares the scenario to determining the velocity of a third car without enough data about its movement. The consensus is that without more context or parameters, solving for V3 is not feasible. The discussion underscores the importance of having complete information in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


I am given the location of 3 points in space:
Z1= X_1+Y_1i
Z2= X_2+Y_2i
Z3= X_3+Y_3i

and the velocity of two points:
V_1= X_1+Y_1i
V_2= X_2+Y_2i

How do I find V3?

Homework Equations


V_1/2= V_1-V_2
V_3= V1+V_3/1
V_2/1= V_2-V_1

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the equations, but I just can't seem to figure out how to relate V_3 with V_2 and V_1. Can anyone help?
 
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Please help, I know it's something simple that I'm missing.
 
your name is a lie... lol

but seriously, if you could type it out a little more clearly i can help
 
Liquidxlax said:
your name is a lie... lol

but seriously, if you could type it out a little more clearly i can help
lol I know, I just wish I was a genius :frown:

What do you mean by more clearly? Let me put some numbers into the equations
I am given the location of 3 points in space:
Z1= 3+3i
Z2= 7+5i
Z3= 5+5i

V_1= 8+0i
V_2= 7+6i

How do I find V3?

Homework Equations


V_1/2= V_1-V_2
V_3= V1+V_3/1
V_2/1= V_2-V_1


Any help? Thanks.
 
i don't see how you can find velocity, with just position vectors and velocity. You have no time or initial position. Are you sure your putting everything in?

What textbook is this from?
 
Liquidxlax said:
i don't see how you can find velocity, with just position vectors and velocity. You have no time or initial position. Are you sure your putting everything in?

What textbook is this from?

Yes that is the entire problem, you are supposed to solve by using relative velocity. The equations I listed are a start, but I'm not sure where I go from there.
 
really, i don't think there's a way to solve this without something else given:frown:..
ideas anyone?
 
The problem also states that the 3 points are on the same link, if that helps.
 
Any ideas?
 
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PhysicsGenius said:

Homework Statement


I am given the location of 3 points in space:
Z1= X_1+Y_1i
Z2= X_2+Y_2i
Z3= X_3+Y_3i

and the velocity of two points:
V_1= X_1+Y_1i
V_2= X_2+Y_2i

How do I find V3?

Homework Equations


V_1/2= V_1-V_2
V_3= V1+V_3/1
V_2/1= V_2-V_1

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the equations, but I just can't seem to figure out how to relate V_3 with V_2 and V_1. Can anyone help?

This is like saying:
There are 3 cars. Car A is traveling due East at 50 mph. Car B is traveling due north at 75 mph. What is the velocity of car C?

You don't have enough information to answer the question!
 
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