Solving Ideal Gas Law Model Homework

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The discussion centers on the application of the Ideal Gas Law in a homework problem, specifically regarding the derivation of force from momentum change. Participants clarify that the rate of change of momentum should consider the traveling time of gas particles rather than the impact time, as the latter is negligible compared to the former. This distinction is crucial for accurately calculating forces in gas dynamics. The consensus is that using impact time would yield unrealistically large force values due to its brevity.

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Homework Statement


My problem is with the last line of the derivation. Usually, we take the rate of change of momentum (force) to be change of momentum divided by the impact time. But this slide of pp showed that the traveling time of the particle in the box is used but not the impact time. Why is it? Appreciate any comment on this. Thank you!

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The Attempt at a Solution


I realized that if the impact time is used. The force will be very large since the impact time is likely to be very small.
 

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Andy123 said:

Homework Statement


My problem is with the last line of the derivation. Usually, we take the rate of change of momentum (force) to be change of momentum divided by the impact time. But this slide of pp showed that the traveling time of the particle in the box is used but not the impact time. Why is it? Appreciate any comment on this. Thank you!

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I realized that if the impact time is used. The force will be very large since the impact time is likely to be very small.
Do you think the impact time of a gas molecule will be a significant fraction of the travel time of that molecule after it rebounds?
 
No, it should be a very small fraction.
 

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