Solving Infinite Series Problem with L'Hopital's Rule

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The discussion focuses on solving the limit of the expression 2n/√(n²+1) as n approaches infinity using L'Hopital's Rule. The user initially applies L'Hopital's Rule but struggles to reconcile their derivative results with those in the solutions manual. A key insight is provided that suggests dividing both the numerator and denominator by n, simplifying the expression to 2/√(1+1/n²). The conversation also highlights the importance of distinguishing between "sequences" and "series" in mathematical terminology. Ultimately, the user resolves their confusion about the algebra involved in the limit calculation.
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Today we started on infinite series, I'm getting the material just fine and able to do most of the problems, but one is giving me problems.

\lim_{n\to{a}} 2n/\sqrt{n^2+1}

I recognized that \infty/\infty so I can use L'Hopital's rule. So taking the derivative of the numerator and denominator I get.

\frac{d}{dn} 2n = 2
and
\frac{d}{dn} \sqrt{n^2+1} = \frac{n}{\sqrt{n^2+1}}

Somehow the solutions manual is getting
2/\sqrt{1+(1/n^2)}

and a final answer of 2.

I can't see how they turned what I get for the derivative in the denominator into what they use. L'Hopital's rule twice would get rid of the n on top and put a 2 there, but that wouldn't change the square root.

thanks for any help
 
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Simply divide the numerator and the denominator by n. You get:
\frac{2n}{\sqrt{n^2+1}}=\frac{2}{\sqrt{1+1/n^2}}
I'd advise against using l'hospitals rule. Although it may be valid to use in some cases, you generally have to show it actually is.
In this case, n is restricted to integer values so the derivative doesn't exist.
 
Thanks for the help,

Could you go through a little of the algebra in the denominator, it's still not making sense to me how it's actually done. What property allows you to divide the radical by n and come up with that?
 
Doh, nevermind, it popped into my head as I was taking a shower. Thanks again.
 
By the way, in mathematics, there is a technical difference between "sequences" and "series". What you are dealing with here are "series", not "sequences".
 
HallsofIvy said:
By the way, in mathematics, there is a technical difference between "sequences" and "series". What you are dealing with here are "series", not "sequences".
Haha, not the other way around? :-p
Don't confuse them indeed. :wink:
 
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