Solving O.D.E. Given Sequence (c, s, 1, e_1, e_{-1})

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The problem involves identifying a differential equation based on the sequence (c, s, 1, e_1, e_{-1}), where c = cos(t) and s = sin(t). Participants are exploring the implications of this sequence as a basis for the solution space of the differential equation p(D)y = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how the functions relate to the differential equation, questioning the meaning of e_1 and e_{-1}, and discussing the implications of the sequence on the characteristic equation. There is also a consideration of whether e_1 and e_{-1} were intended to represent e^t and e^{-t} instead.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the nature of the functions involved and the potential for multiple differential equations to fit the given sequence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the functions and their roles in forming a characteristic equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the definitions of e_1 and e_{-1}, and participants are questioning the assumptions made about these terms. The original problem statement does not specify a unique solution, indicating the possibility of multiple valid interpretations.

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Problem:

The sequence (c, s, 1, [tex]e_1,\,e_{-1}[/tex]) is a basis for the solution space of some differential equation p(D)y = 0. Find this O.D.E.

NOTE: c = cos(t) and s = sin(t)


Work so far:

I know that [tex]e_1[/tex] gives a (t - 1) and that the [tex]e_{-1}[/tex] gives a (t + 1), but how do I solve for the 1! I think that the c and s give ([tex]t^2[/tex] - 1).

Also, can someone explain in detail or give a reference to what a Ker() is?

thanks
 
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Ker(x) means the kernel of the transformation x--the set of all values that x maps to the identity. In linear algebra that would be the set of all values that x maps to the zero vector. What exactly are [tex]e_1,\,e_{-1}[/tex]?
 
VinnyCee said:
Problem:

The sequence (c, s, 1, [tex]e_1,\,e_{-1}[/tex]) is a basis for the solution space of some differential equation p(D)y = 0. Find this O.D.E.

NOTE: c = cos(t) and s = sin(t)


Work so far:

I know that [tex]e_1[/tex] gives a (t - 1) and that the [tex]e_{-1}[/tex] gives a (t + 1), but how do I solve for the 1! I think that the c and s give ([tex]t^2[/tex] - 1).
I have no idea what you mean by this! Is it possible that [tex]e_1[/tex] and [tex]e_{-1}[/tex] were supposed to be [itex]e^1[/itex] and [tex]e^{-1}[/itex]? If that is the case then the roots of the characteristic equation are i, -i, 0, 1, and -1. From that information, you should be able to find the characteristic equation and from that the differential equation.<br /> <br /> The problem as given ("Find this O.D.E.") has no single solution. There exist an infinite number of differential equations having those functions as solutions. Why I am giving is the simplest linear, homogenous, differential equation.[/tex]
 
I think he meant [tex]e^t[/tex] and [tex]e^{-t}[/tex] since c, s, and 1 are functions (well, e and 1/e would be functions too, but for these purposes would be equivalent to 1)
 

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