Calculate the dual basis and tangent basis vectors

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of dual basis and tangent basis vectors in a mathematical context, likely involving differential geometry or linear algebra concepts. The original poster presents a series of assumptions and calculations related to the definitions and properties of these vectors.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the conditions for the variable x and presents calculations for the tangent and dual basis vectors. They question the correctness of their assumptions and calculations, particularly regarding the inner products of the basis vectors.

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The original poster's calculations are based on specific assumptions about the variables involved, and they express confusion about the implications of their results. There is an indication that the problem may involve constraints related to the definitions of the basis vectors.

Karl Karlsson
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Homework Statement
A coordinate system with the coordinates s and t in ##R^2## is defined by the coordinate transformations: ## s = y/y_0## and ##t=y/y_0 - tan(x/x_0)## , where ##x_0## and ##y_0## are constants.

a) Determine the area that includes the point (x, y) = (0, 0) where the coordinate system
is well defined. Express the area both in the Cartesian coordinates (x, y) and in
the new coordinates (s, t).

b) Calculate the tangent basis vectors ##\vec E_s## and ##\vec E_t## and the dual basis vectors##\vec E^s## and ##\vec E^t##

c)Determine the inner products ##\vec E_s\cdot\vec E^s##, ##\vec E_s\cdot\vec E^t##, ##\vec E_t\cdot\vec E^s## and ##\vec E_t\cdot\vec E^t##
Relevant Equations
## s = y/y_0## and ##t=y/y_0 - tan(x/x_0)## , where ##x_0## and ##y_0## are constants.
a) Since ##tan(x/x_0)## is not defined for ##x=\pm\pi/2\cdot x_0## I assume x must be in between those values therefore ##-\pi/2\cdot x_0 < x < \pi/2\cdot x_0## and y can be any real number. Is this the correct answer on a)?

b) I can solve x and y for s and t which gives me ##y=y_0\cdot s## and ##x=x_0\cdot arctan(s-t)##. ##\vec E_s = \frac {x_0} {1 + (s-t)^2}\cdot\vec e-x + y_0\cdot\vec e_y## and ##\vec E_t = - \frac { x_0} { 1 + (s-t)^2}\cdot\vec e_x##. I get the dual basis vectors from ##\vec E^s = \frac {1} {y_0}\cdot\vec e_y## and ##\vec E^t = \frac {1} {y_0}\cdot\vec e_y - \frac {1} {x_0(1+(x/x_0)^2)}\cdot\vec e_x## , is this the correct approach?

c) It was here that I really started to question if i had done correct on a and b since I get ##\vec E_s\cdot \vec E^s = 1## and##\vec E_t\cdot \vec E^s = 0##, this feels correct but then i get by just plugging in ##\vec E_t\cdot \vec E^t = \frac {x_0} {(1+(s-t)^2)(1+arctan(s-t)^2)}## and ##\vec E_s\cdot \vec E^t = 1-\frac {1} {(1+(s-t)^2)(1+arctan(s-t)^2)}##. Is this really correct? Because it feels like it is not correct.

Thanks in advance!
 
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