Solving ode of forced oscillator with dumping

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) that describes the motion of a forced oscillator with damping and constant friction. Participants explore both numerical and analytical methods for solving the equation, which includes terms for external forcing and damping effects.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about solving the ODE analytically after successfully using numerical methods (Runge-Kutta 4).
  • Another participant provides a detailed step-by-step approach to rearranging the equation and finding both the homogeneous and particular solutions.
  • The homogeneous solution is derived using the characteristic polynomial, with roots defined under the assumption that \(4mw^{2}_{0} > k^{2}\).
  • The particular solution is divided into responses to a constant force and a harmonic force, with specific forms proposed for each response.
  • Coefficients for the particular solution are calculated based on comparisons of terms in the ODE.
  • The general solution is presented as a combination of the homogeneous and particular solutions, with arbitrary coefficients that can be determined from initial conditions.
  • Participants express appreciation for the assistance provided in understanding the solution process.

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Participants generally agree on the method of solving the ODE, with one participant providing a comprehensive analytical solution. However, the initial poster's uncertainty about the analytical approach indicates that some aspects of the discussion may still be unresolved for them.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions in the derivation of solutions, such as the conditions under which the roots of the characteristic polynomial are valid or the implications of the damping term.

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Hi i have to solve this ODE which descirbes motion of forced oscillator with dumping and constant friction :p

I'm already solving it numerically with Runge-Kutta 4 yet I'm totally puzzeled how to do it analytically.

equation:

[tex]mx'' + kx' + w^2_0x + F_f = A cos(\delta t)[/tex] Ff delta k and w are constant

moving acceleration x'' to one side we get

[tex]x'' = \frac 1 m (- kx' - w^2_0x - F_f + A cos(\delta t))[/tex]

i need to solve this equation twice to get velocity x' than position x. Yet i have no clue i know only how to solve x' = f(x) first order ODE :/
 
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first of all rearrange the equation

[tex]mx''+kx'+w^{2}_{0}x=Acos(\delta t)-F_{f}[/tex]

Divide the solution into two steps.

1) Homogenous solution
This is the behaviour of the system without the external force acting on it

[tex]x''+\frac{k}{m}x'+w^{2}_{0}x=0[/tex]

This is a constant coefficient equation, and solved with the characteristic polynomial:

[tex]r^{2}+\frac{k}{m}r+\frac{w^{2}_{0}}{m}=0[/tex]

The roots are given by:

[tex]r_{1,2}=\frac{-k\pm \sqrt{k^{2}-4mw^{2}_{0}}}{2m}[/tex]

Now I'm going to assume [tex]4mw^{2}_{0}>k^{2}[/tex] and define:

[tex]\alpha = \frac{k}{2m}; \omega=\sqrt{-\frac{k^{2}}{4m}+w^{2}_{0}}[/tex]

so
[tex]r_{1,2}=\alpha\pm i\omega[/tex]

Therefore the set of homogenous solutions is
[tex]x_{1}(t)=e^{-\alpha t}cos(\omega t); x_{2}(t)=e^{-\alpha t}sin(\omega t)[/tex]

The general homogenous solution is given by superposition.

2) Particular Solution
The response of the system to the external force

I'm going to use "guessing", but first we will divide the response into two:

2.1) Response to the constant force [tex]F_{f}[/tex]
The easiest guess is that x itself will be constant. So if we choose x=c, we'll have

[tex]x_{p,1}=c=-\frac{F_{f}}{w^{2}_{0}}[/tex]

2.2) Response to the harmonic force
Now we going to choose some [tex]x=Ccos(\delta t)+Dsin(\delta t)[/tex]

Substituting this into the equation gives:

[tex]-mC\delta^{2} cos(\delta t) -mD\delta^{2}sin(\delta t)-kC\delta sin(\deltat) + kD\delta cos(\delta t)+w^{2}_{0}Ccos(\delta t)+w^{2}_{0}Dsin(\delta t)=Acos(\delta t)[/tex]

Comparing coefficient of cosines and sines gives:

[tex]-mC\delta^{2}+kD\delta+w^{2}_{0}C=A[/tex]
[tex]-mD\delta^{2}-kC\delta+w^{2}_{0}D=0[/tex]

which gives

[tex]C=\frac{A(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}; D=\frac{Ak\delta}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}[/tex]

So [tex]x_{p,2}=\frac{A(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}cos(\delta t)+\frac{Ak\delta}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}sin(\delta t)[/tex]Now finally we compose all of the results together to get the general solution of the ODE:

[tex]x(t)=c_{1}e^{-\alpha t}cos(\omega t)+c_{2}e^{-\alpha t}sin(\omega t)-\frac{F_{f}}{w^{2}_{0}}+\frac{A(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}cos(\delta t)+\frac{Ak\delta}{(w^{2}_{0}-m\delta^{2})^{2}+k^2\delta^{2}}sin(\delta t)[/tex]

The first & second term are superposition of the homogoneous solutions.
The third & fourth term are sum of the responses to the external force.

The coefficients c1 & c2 are arbitrary but given initial conditions you can find them.
 
Nicely done.
 
big thanks it took me some time how to get this results but u helped me a lot thanks mate :)
 

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