Solving Probability Question: R1, R2, B2 & G3

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to drawing balls from a bag containing red, blue, and green balls. The first part of the problem involves finding P(R1 ∩ R2), which was correctly calculated as 2/87. The second part, P(R1 ∪ R2), was initially miscalculated due to confusion about the probability of the second ball being red, which can depend on the outcome of the first draw. The correct approach involves considering both scenarios for R2, leading to a combined probability of 29/174. Ultimately, the correct answer for P(R1 ∪ R2) aligns with the book's answer of 9/29.
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Hi, i have this question
A bag contains 5 red balls, 10 blue balls and 15 green balls. Three balls are drawn from the bag one after another without replacement. The event R1 , R2 , B2 and G3 are defined as follows.

R1 - represents the event the first ball drawn is red.
R2 - represents the event the second ball drawn is red.
B2 - represents the event the second ball drawn is blue.
G3 - represents the event the third ball drawn is green.

Find
a) i) P(R1 \cap R2)

for this , i drew a tree diagram, for it to be red for the first ball, it has to be 5/30 and for the second to be red it has to be 4/29 thus multiplying them both would give me the answer which is 2/87.

ii) P(R1 \cup R2)

for this i thought of P(R1) + P (R2) - P(R1 \cap R2) would solve the problem but the answer is incorrect and later i see, i don't really know what's the probability of R2 because it could be 5/29 or 4/29.

Please help.
 
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crays said:
Hi, i have this question
A bag contains 5 red balls, 10 blue balls and 15 green balls. Three balls are drawn from the bag one after another without replacement. The event R1 , R2 , B2 and G3 are defined as follows.

R1 - represents the event the first ball drawn is red.
R2 - represents the event the second ball drawn is red.
B2 - represents the event the second ball drawn is blue.
G3 - represents the event the third ball drawn is green.

Find
a) i) P(R1 \cap R2)

for this , i drew a tree diagram, for it to be red for the first ball, it has to be 5/30 and for the second to be red it has to be 4/29 thus multiplying them both would give me the answer which is 2/87.
Yes, that is correct.

ii) P(R1 \cup R2)

for this i thought of P(R1) + P (R2) - P(R1 \cap R2) would solve the problem but the answer is incorrect and later i see, i don't really know what's the probability of R2 because it could be 5/29 or 4/29.

Please help.
For R2, there are two possiblities to consider:
1) The first ball drawn is red. The probability of that happening is 5/30 and then the probability the second ball drawn is also red is 4/29. The probability the first ball drawn is red and the second ball drawn is red is (5/30)(4/29)= 2/87 as you calculated in the first problem.

2) The first ball drawn is not red. The probability of that happening is 25/30 and then the probability the second ball drawn is red is 5/29. The probability the first ball drawn is not red and the second ball drawn is red is (25/30)(5/29)= 25/174.

The probability that a red ball is drawn second is P(R1 and R2)+ P((not R1) and R2)= 2/87+ 25/174= 29/174.
 
Then i guess my book is wrong for the answer, it says 9/29
 
Your book is correct. You have

<br /> P(R_1) = 1/6, P(R_2) = 1/6<br />

and you have

<br /> P(R_1 \cap R_2) = 2/{87}<br />

Now use

<br /> P(R_1 \cup R_2) = P(R_1) + P(R_2) - P(R_1 \cap R_2)<br />
 
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