Solving problems in Kinematics with simple calculus

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The discussion focuses on solving kinematic problems using calculus, specifically addressing a scenario where a variable force F = bv acts on a vehicle. The initial approach using the work-energy theorem is questioned due to the velocity-dependent nature of the force. Instead, it is suggested to apply Newton's second law, leading to a differential equation that can be solved to express velocity as a function of time. This method reveals that while the vehicle travels a finite distance, it requires an infinite amount of time to stop, highlighting a limitation of the model. Additionally, the conversation clarifies that problems involving forces are categorized as dynamical rather than purely kinematic.
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Hi,

I have a generic question about solving kinematic problems using simple calculus. For eg.
A variable force F = bv (v is instantaneous speed at some time t) acts on a vehicle moving with speed v. Suppose the initial speed at t = 0 of the vehicle is v0. Calculate the distance through which it moves before stopping.
By work energy theorem, (1/2) m (V0)2 = ∫ F. ds
Now how do we integrate the right side and move forward? That's my main question. Any help is appreciated

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Sanjay
 
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b above is a constant.
 
I wouldn't start from here. I think (though I may be wrong) that the theorem in this form is not much use when the force is velocity-dependent.

Instead, assuming that the vehicle is confined to move in a straight line, you can use Newton's second law in the form F= ma. Substitute bv for F (remembering that b is negative - I'd write it as -β] and substitute dv/dt for a. This gives you a differential equation, which is easily solved to give v as a function of t. Integrate this wrt time, between zero and infinity to give you the distance gone.

This is quite interesting, as it shows that the vehicle goes a finite distance, but takes an infinite time to do it! (Well, to do every last nanometre). This is not what a real vehicle would do, because F = -βv does not model the usual rolling resistance, bearing friction etc. very well. These will not tend to zero as the vehicle's speed goes to zero.
 
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A note on terminology. Any problem involving forces is dynamical, not kinematic.
 
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