Solving S_N Integral with Small Angle Formula

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The problem involves evaluating the integral S_N (x) = (2/π) ∫(0 to x) (sin(2Nt)/sin(t)) dt using a small angle approximation. The original poster aims to show that S_N(π/2N) equals (2/π) ∫(0 to π) (sin(u)/u) du.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the small angle approximation sin(θ) ≈ θ and suggest variable substitutions, particularly u = 2Nt, to transform the integral. Questions arise regarding the justification of changing the variable and the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the substitution process and the implications of the small angle approximation. Some participants express uncertainty about justifying the transformation of variables, while others provide suggestions for algebraic manipulation to find the new limits of integration.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of previous attempts to solve the problem, indicating that participants are building on earlier discussions. The original poster notes a delay in their understanding, suggesting a learning process in progress.

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Homework Statement



[tex]S_N (x) = \frac{2}{\pi} \int_0^x \frac{\sin (2 N t )}{\sin (t)} \; d{t}[/tex]

use suitable small angle formula to show[tex]S_N \Big( \frac{\pi}{2 N} \Big) = \frac{2}{\pi} \int_0^{\pi} \frac{\sin u}{u} d{u}[/tex]

Homework Equations



i guess the suitable small angle formula is

[tex]\sin (\theta) \sim \theta[/tex]

when [tex](\theta)[/tex] is small...

The Attempt at a Solution

i have tried to do some substations but just can't get both numerator and denominator to the right thingany sugguestions will be appreciated

Thank YOU
 
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change variable
u=2N*t
then
sin(small)~small
 
It looks like you already know they want you to assume [tex]$\sin(t)=t$[/tex]. Your next step is to find an appropriate "u substitution." Try [tex]$ u = 2Nt$[/tex] so that you have [tex]$ \int_0^{\pi/2N} \frac{\sin{(2Nt)}dt}{t} = \int_{0}^{?} \frac{\sin{u}}{u}du$[/tex]. Use algebra to find [tex]$ ? $[/tex] and [tex]$ du $[/tex].
 
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Hi there
I have tried this already (actually 7 days ago)
still using
[tex]u = 2 N t[/tex] i can get the correct limits but
i just can't justify that the bottom
[tex]t[/tex] just goes to [tex]u[/tex]
how do i jusitfy that?

Thank you

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
holly!

I got it
right after the click "post quick reply"...

THANK YOU ALL

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[tex]\frac{du}{u} = \frac{2Ndt}{2Nt} = \frac{dt}{t}[/tex]
 

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