Solving simultaneous trigonometric equation

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The discussion revolves around solving simultaneous trigonometric equations involving hyperbolic functions. The equations presented include terms like sine, cosine, and hyperbolic sine and cosine, with variables a and b dependent on the parameter alpha, which ranges from 0 to 2π.

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  • Participants explore reducing the equations to simpler forms and question the meaning of specific terms, such as the "h" indicating hyperbolic functions. There are attempts to manipulate the equations using trigonometric identities and to express relationships between the variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications. Some have expressed uncertainty about solving the resulting transcendental equations, while others are seeking further information about the original problem setup.

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There is mention of the equations being transcendental and having multiple roots, which complicates the solving process. Participants are also discussing the implications of hyperbolic functions in the context of the equations.

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how to solve
eqn1 = sin((alpha)*a)*cosh((alpha)*b)=sin(alpha)*a
eqn2 = sinh((alpha)*b)*cos((alpha)*a) = b*sin(alpha)
alpha = 0 to 2pi...

Find a & b...

Plz help me with any method that would help solving this...
 
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I can get it reduced to:[tex]\sin(\alpha x) = x \sin(\alpha)[/tex]

[tex]\sin(\alpha y) = y \sin(\alpha)[/tex]

[tex]x = a + (b/i) \quad \& \quad y= a - (b/i)[/tex]beyond that, I am a bit stuck. Anyone else?
 
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What is that "h" in front of cos in the first equation and sin in the second equation?

Anyway, the solution is:

eq1 - eq2
[tex]sin(\alpha*a)*cosh(\alpha*b)-sinh(\alpha*b)*cos(\alpha*a)=a*sin\alpha-b*sin\alpha[/tex]

Now use the sum difference formula

[tex]sin(u \pm v)=sinucosv \pm cosusinv[/tex]

and you got

[tex]sin(\alpha*a - \alpha*b) = (a-b)sin\alpha[/tex]

[tex]sin((a-b)\alpha)=(a-b)sin\alpha[/tex]

x=a-b

[tex]sin(x\alpha)=xsin\alpha[/tex]

Regards.
 
Hi,

Thank for ur reply,

Reply 1:
I will look into it... thanx...

Reply 2:
'h' means hyperbolic function... and the result u have showed is from where i started to get these equations... these are transcedental equations having many roots so that eqn formed at the end that you got is not solvable(that is i don't know to solve)... if you know any method please reply...

Thank you.
 
Aaah... I see now...
Could you possibly provide me the original problem?

Regards.
 
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Дьявол said:
Aaah... I see now...
Could you possibly provide me the original problem?

Regards.

sinZ = C1*Z
Z = (\alpha)*(\lambda)
C1 =(+/-)[Sin(\alpha)] / (\alpha)

hence we get,

Sin((\alpha)*(\lambda)) = \lambda *sin(\alpha)

\lambda = a+ib

hence eqn1 and eqn2...
 

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