MHB Solving the Diophantine Equation $a^4 + 79 + b^4 = 48ab$

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The discussion revolves around finding integer solutions for the Diophantine equation $a^4 + 79 + b^4 = 48ab$. Participants express appreciation for contributions and encourage sharing solutions. One user, kaliprasad, is acknowledged for their participation, while another user, Anemone, is prompted to share their solution. The conversation highlights the collaborative nature of problem-solving in mathematics. The thread emphasizes the importance of providing complete solutions to posted challenges.
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Find all integer solutions $(a,\,b)$ satisfying $a^4+79+b^4=48ab$.
 
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anemone said:
Find all integer solutions $(a,\,b)$ satisfying $a^4+79+b^4=48ab$.

we make following observations

No 1) both are positive / -ve
No 2) one is odd and another even as RHS is even
No 3) The lower number is $< 5$ as $2 * 5^4 >= 1200$
No 4) x mod 3 cannot be zero nor y mod 3 as 79 mod 3 = 1 and RHS mod 3 = 0
No 5) if $(x,y) $ is a solution then $(-x,-y)$ is a solution
based on this we need to check (1,2), (1,4) so on
(2,5) so on
(4,5) so on

using above 3 conditions we get (1,2) a solution

(1,4) gives LHS = 336 > RHS
(2,5) gives LHS larger
(4,5) give LHS = RHS

so solution set = $(1,2).(2,1),(4,5),(5,4),(-1,-2),(-2,-1),(-4,-5),(-5,-4)$
 
kaliprasad said:
we make following observations

No 1) both are positive / -ve
No 2) one is odd and another even as RHS is even
No 3) The lower number is $< 5$ as $2 * 5^4 >= 1200$
No 4) x mod 3 cannot be zero nor y mod 3 as 79 mod 3 = 1 and RHS mod 3 = 0
No 5) if $(x,y) $ is a solution then $(-x,-y)$ is a solution
based on this we need to check (1,2), (1,4) so on
(2,5) so on
(4,5) so on

using above 3 conditions we get (1,2) a solution

(1,4) gives LHS = 336 > RHS
(2,5) gives LHS larger
(4,5) give LHS = RHS

so solution set = $(1,2).(2,1),(4,5),(5,4),(-1,-2),(-2,-1),(-4,-5),(-5,-4)$

Well done, kaliprasad! And thanks for participating!:)
 
anemone said:
Well done, kaliprasad! And thanks for participating!:)

Thanks for the same. I would like to see your solution Anemone
 
kaliprasad said:
Thanks for the same. I would like to see your solution Anemone

Fair point!:)

But I didn't solve it myself, having said so, one has to have the complete solution for his/her posted challenge problem. So, I do have the solution that I wanted to share with you and all here:

If $(a,\,b)$ is a solution, so are $(b,\,a)$, $(-a,\,-b)$ and $(-b,\,-a)$.

Also, $ab>0$, so we must have $a,\,b$ both positive or both negative.

Suppose that $(a,\,b)$ is a solution, with $a\ge b>0$, we see that

$a^4+(b^4+79)=48ab$

$\dfrac{a^4}{a}+\dfrac{(b^4+79)}{a}=\dfrac{48ab}{a}$

$a^3+\dfrac{(b^4+79)}{a}=48b$

$a^3+\dfrac{(b^4+79)}{a}\le 48a$

It follows that $a^3\le 48a$ or more simply $a^2\le 48$ and thus $|a|$ and $|b|$ are bounded by 6. Also, one must be even and the other odd. It follows quickly that the only solution are:

$(a,\,b)=(-4,\,-5),\,(-5,\,-4),\,(-1,\,-2),\,(-2,\,-1),\,(1,\,2),\,(2,\,1),\,(4,\,5),\,(5,\,4)$
 
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