Solving the Gamma Function: Using Recursion & Tables

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The discussion centers on solving the Gamma function using recursion and tables, with participants exploring various integral expressions. Key points include the application of the Gamma function properties, such as Gamma(P+1) = P * Gamma(P), and attempts to compute specific values like Gamma(0.7) and Gamma(1.6). There is confusion regarding substitutions in integrals, particularly when changing variables, and how to correctly express dx in terms of the new variable. Participants also discuss the derivation of integrals involving exponential functions and the Gamma function, emphasizing the need for accurate substitutions. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of working with the Gamma function and the importance of precise mathematical manipulation.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{n}e^{-x}dx $$ = $$ Gamma (n+1) = n!
$$ Gamma(P+1) $$ = $$Gamma(P)$$
$$ Gamma(P) = (1/P) $$Gamma(P+1)$$


The Attempt at a Solution


2) I have found it from table.
3) I have used recursion and table to find it.
4) Again With recursion.
5) $$ \Gamma(0.7) $$ = 1/p(p+1) with this formula.
8) If $$ \ Gamma (p+1) $$ is equal to this integral,I think it can be written as $$ \ Gamma (2/3+1) $$ later we can found the value from table.Am I right?
Same logic again for 9,10?
But what next? How can I convert them to Gamma function?
 

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11) I found 1/2 but I'm not sure(?)

Edit : No it's not true.I think true solution is on down.
 
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$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{2}e^{-x^{2}}dx=2\int _{0}^{\infty }u^{2}e^{-u}du=2\cdot \Gamma 3 $$
 
Erbil said:
$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }x^{2}e^{-x^{2}}dx=2\int _{0}^{\infty }u^{2}e^{-u}du=2\cdot \Gamma 3 $$
No. How did you get that?
What did you get for (5)?
I don't follow your logic for (8). Where did 2/3 come from? I suspect what you posted is not what you meant.
 
5. 1/0.7(Gamma1.7) = 1.30 ? Isn't it?
I'm sorry questions mess up.It's solution of question 11.
Here is for (8)

For n= 2/3 Gamma(n+1) = Gamma(1+2/3)=Gamma(1.6) = 0.89
 
Erbil said:
5. 1/0.7(Gamma1.7) = 1.30 ? Isn't it?
Yes.
I'm sorry questions mess up.It's solution of question 11.
But you haven't done the substitution correctly. What will dx become?
Here is for (8)
For n= 2/3 Gamma(n+1) = Gamma(1+2/3)=Gamma(1.6) = 0.89
OK, but 1.6 is a bit inaccurate. The answer should be > 0.9.
 
Yes.There's a problem.But I can't figure. if we say u=x^2 --> 2xdx=du --> dx = du/2x Where to go from here? I can't remember how can I escape from x variable?
 
For the ones of the type

\int_0^\infty t^a b \, e^{-t^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

this can be derived by the change of variable u=t^b
 
Erbil said:
Yes.There's a problem.But I can't figure. if we say u=x^2 --> 2xdx=du --> dx = du/2x Where to go from here? I can't remember how can I escape from x variable?
Just replace the x using u=x2
 
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haruspex said:
Just replace the x using u=x2

I understand but what about dx ? Would be? x^2=u 2xdx = du dx = du/2x (I'm asking about this x?)

$$ \int _{0}^{\infty }ue^{-u}? $$
 
  • #11
dx = du/(2x)
or
dx = du/(2sqrt(u))
 
  • #12
lurflurf said:
dx = du/(2x)
or
dx = du/(2sqrt(u))

Thanks!
 
  • #13
Can I use same logic for 12?

x^3 = u
3x^2dx= du
dx = du / 3*√u

∫xe^-x^3 = ∫u^1/3*e^-u du/3*√u= 1/3 ∫ u^-1/6 e^-udu = 1/3 * Gamma -5/6 ...?+ No idea for 15?
 
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  • #14
Erbil said:
Can I use same logic for 12?

x^3 = u
3x^2dx= du
dx = du / 3*√u
Not √u, a little more complicated than that. What is x as a function of u?
+ No idea for 15?
In line with the other substitutions, u=8x looks obvious. Did you try that?
 
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haruspex said:
Not √u, a little more complicated than that. What is x as a function of u?

In line with the other substitutions, u=8x looks obvious. Did you try that?

Oh what I was did.it will be u^1/3 =?
Not yet.But I will.
 
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^Yes above I said

\int_0^\infty t^a b \, e^{-t^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

this can be derived by the change of variable u=t^b

also

\int_0^\infty (st)^a b \, e^{-(s t)^b} \, \dfrac{\mathrm{dt}}{t}=\Gamma(a/b)

s>0 this can be derived by the change of variable u=s t
 

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