Solving the Integral of ((x^2) + 1)^2

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion centers around finding the integral of the expression ((x^2) + 1)^2, with participants exploring various methods of approach. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses difficulty with the integral and notes a lack of substitution options. Some participants suggest expanding the expression instead, while others emphasize the importance of substitution as per the problem's instructions. There is also a consideration of using trigonometric substitution for more complex powers.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on how to approach the integral. Some guidance has been provided regarding expansion and substitution methods, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of instructor support and a background in calculus that is still developing, which may influence their understanding and approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


How to find the integral of ((x^2) + 1)^2


My calc background.

I just started learning calc for the summer, so I making or missing little mistakes and i don't have an instructor to point it out to me. I see that some calc questions for me are easy such as the integral of x((x^2) + 1)^2,,, but for some strange reason I can't do ((x^2) + 1)^2.



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When I see this problem i couldn't find it anything to subsitute which is why i can't solve it, so I need a step by step way to solve this PLZ
 
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You don't need to substitute, just expand it.
 
K but the question said to use substitution
 
and what if i had ((x^2) + 1)^10, there must be a way to do it w/o expanding
 
Okay, then use a Trig substitution. Think of the trig identities you know and decide which substitution would make it look like one of them. You can use the expansion for any powers of n, even large, whilst substitutions makes it very difficult for larger exponents.
 
Gib Z said:
Okay, then use a Trig substitution. Think of the trig identities you know and decide which substitution would make it look like one of them. You can use the expansion for any powers of n, even large, whilst substitutions makes it very difficult for larger exponents.


K so I am thinking let u = (sinx)^2 + (sinx)^2 + (cosx)^2
 
Try u=tan x.
 
Sidthewall said:
K so I am thinking let u = (sinx)^2 + (sinx)^2 + (cosx)^2
?
 

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