Solving the radial Schroedinger equation with a linear potentail

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The problem involves solving the radial Schrödinger equation with a linear potential, as referenced in a specific problem from a graduate prelims document. Participants are exploring the appropriate unitless variable substitutions to simplify the equation.

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  • The original poster attempts a substitution of the form x(r)=u(r)/r^2 but encounters difficulties leading to a messy differential equation. Other participants suggest transforming to dimensionless variables and provide insights on defining constants for this purpose. There is discussion about the dimensions of the wavefunction and its implications for the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on variable transformations and clarifying the dimensional aspects of the wavefunction. There is acknowledgment that while the dimensionless form of the equation does not directly yield energy levels, it offers useful scaling information regarding the system's parameters.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of dimensional analysis and the implications of variable substitutions in the context of quantum mechanics. There is a focus on ensuring that the transformations maintain the integrity of the original equation.

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The problem is number three (page 3) on the following link.http://panda.unm.edu/pandaweb/graduate/prelims/QM_S12.pdf
I was going to type it out but it got too messy.

2. The attempt at a solution
What I want to know is the relevant unitless variable substitution that the problem suggests. I tried x(r)=u(r)/r^2 thinking that u(r) is in units of r^2. This just led to a very messy diff equ. So If anyone has any other ideas on what I could use, or if this is the right substitution and i merely made a mistake.
 
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Hello forceface. Welcome to PF!

Transforming to dimensionless variables just means letting ##r = a\tilde{r}## where ##a## is a constant (to be determined) that has the dimensions of length. So, ##\tilde{r}## is a dimensionless variable.

Likewise, let ##E = b\tilde{E}## where ##b## is a constant (to be determined) that has the dimensions of energy. Thus, ##\tilde{E}## is a dimensionless quantity.

See if you can rewrite the Schrödinger equation in terms of ##\tilde{r}## and ##\tilde{E}## and ##a## and ##b##. Then choose the constants ##a## and ##b## so that the Schrödinger equation becomes dimensionless of the form $$(-\frac{d^2}{d\tilde{r}^2} + \tilde{r})u = \tilde{E}u$$
 
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This clears it all up, thank you. I was getting caught on the units of u(r) because I was thinking that it was not dimensionless but infact it is. So the idea behind this problem to convert everything else in this equation into dimensionless variables and then from that a relation can be obtained between the dimensionless E and the E in the original equation. The term relating the two E's is related to the allowed energies. But this doesn't mean we have solved for the allowed energies, maybe just an order of magnitude or something.
 
The wavefunction u(r) is not dimensionless since |u(r)|2 represents a probability per unit length. However, the dimensions of u(r) are not important in this question because u(r) appears on both sides of the Schrödinger equation so that its dimensions automatically cancel out. In other words, you could introduce a dimensionless \widetilde{u}(r) such that u(r) = λ\widetilde{u}(r) where λ is some constant with dimensions (length)-1/2, but λ would just cancel out when you rewrote the equation in terms of \widetilde{u}(r).

As you say, going over to the dimensionless form of the Schrödinger equation still doesn't tell you what the energy levels are. But, it does tell you that if you solved the dimensionless equation for the dimensionless energy levels \widetilde{E}, then the energy levels for the original problem would be ##E = (\frac{\hbar^2 k^2}{2m})^{1/3}\widetilde{E}##. That provides some very useful information. For example, if you replace the particle with a different particle with 8 times as much mass, then all of the energy levels would be reduced by 1/2. So you can see how the energy levels scale with the various parameters of the system.
 
Well if u(r) is defined at u(r)=r*R(r), where R(r) is the radial part of the wave function, what are the units of R(r)?
 
[EDITED] If R(r) is the radial part of the wavefunction: ψ = R(r)Y(θ,∅), then R(r) would have dimensions of length-3/2. So, u would have dimensions of length -1/2.

But I don't think the dimensions of u(r) makes any difference regarding this problem.
 
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