Some questions about double integral and vector calculus

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The discussion revolves around questions related to double integrals and vector calculus, specifically focusing on variable substitution and boundary transformations in integrals.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the process of changing variables in double integrals and expresses difficulty with the boundaries involved. Some participants suggest specific substitutions and inquire about the transformation of limits.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and suggestions for variable substitutions. There is a focus on clarifying the boundaries and limits for integration, with multiple interpretations being explored regarding the setup of the integrals.

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There is mention of boundaries defined by specific equations, and the original poster acknowledges challenges with typing out the problem details, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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I've written all the questions in the PDF file ...

Please help me !
 

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If you can't be bothered to
1) type the problem itself here
2) Do anything at all at all on the problem

I don't see why I should bother.
 
HallsofIvy said:
If you can't be bothered to
1) type the problem itself here
2) Do anything at all at all on the problem

I don't see why I should bother.



I'm sorry for that.

I scanned the problem I had just because they are "hard" to type ...I concede that my computer ability is not good... So I made manuscript instead.

And I did not discribed the problem I have ...is my false .

I'm now typing the problem I have...

For Q1:

I tried change of variable and fail...

I could not figure out the craftsmanship solving the problem...

Give me a hint please...

For Q2:

I was considering expand the formula by assuming

A=(A1)i+(A2)j+(A3)k {also B}

substitude the equations...

No doubt ...It is quite terrible !

So I asked for help!

Sorry again for ignoring the "detail problem" :shy:
 
Hi abcdefg10645! That's better! :smile:

(have a del: ∇ and a dot: · and an integral: ∫ :wink:)

For 1, make the obvious substitution …

u = 3x + y, v = x - 2y, dxdy = … ?

For 2, just write each of the coordinates out in full …

try a. first …

what do you get? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi abcdefg10645! That's better! :smile:

(have a del: ∇ and a dot: · and an integral: ∫ :wink:)

For 1, make the obvious substitution …

u = 3x + y, v = x - 2y, dxdy = … ?

For 2, just write each of the coordinates out in full …

try a. first …

what do you get? :smile:



Thaks for your help...

But for question 1...I still have a little problem...

Could you give me a hint for changing the upper and lower limit?

And even tell me the "principle" resoving the limits ...

Thanks!
 
abcdefg10645 said:
Could you give me a hint for changing the upper and lower limit?

I don't understand :confused:

just convert x and y to u and v …

what do you get? :smile:
 
The region in problem 1 has boundaries 2x+ y= 0, 3x+ y= 0, x- 2y= 1 and x- 2y= 2.

tiny-tim suggested the substitution u = 3x + y, v = x - 2y.

Solve for x and y in terms of u and v: Multiplying the first equation by 2 and adding to the second equation gives 2u+ v= 6x+ 2y+ x- 2y= 7x so x= (2u+ v)/7. Multiplying the second equation by 3 and subtracting the first equation gives 3v- u= 3x-6y- 3x- y= -7y so y= (u- 3v)/7.

Convert the boundary to uv-coordinates by substituting those for x and y:
2x+ y= 2(2u+v)/7+ (u-3v)/7= (4u+ 2v+ u- 3v)/7= (5u- v)/7= 0 so 5u- v= 0

It should be obvious that the last three equations become u= 0, v= 1, and v= 2, but as a demonstration, x- 2y= (2u+ v)/7- 2(u- 3v)/7= (2u+ v- 2u+ 6v)/7= 7v/7= v= 1.

So you want to integrate on the region bounded by the lines u= 0, u= v/5, v= 1, and v= 2. I recommend taking the "outer integral" to be with respect to v, from 1 to 2, and the "inner integral" with respect to u, from 0 to v/5. Be careful about dudv. It is, of course, the Jacobian.
 
try sketching your boundaries
 

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