Special Relativity - Light wave crest

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity, specifically focusing on the behavior of light waves as observed from different reference frames. The original poster presents a scenario where an observer S sees spherical light waves with a specified wavelength and speed, while another observer S' moves at a significant speed relative to S. The task involves calculating the emitted wave crests as seen by both observers using Galilean and Lorentz transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about applying Galilean and Lorentz transformations to the problem. There are discussions about calculating the number of wave crests and the relationship between wavelength and distance in different reference frames. Some participants question the assumption of the speed of light being 3.0 m/s and its implications on the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and raising questions about the application of transformations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of wavefronts and the components of the wavevector, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is constrained to measurements in the X and Y directions, excluding the Z direction. There is also a mention of the peculiar assumption regarding the speed of light, which may affect the interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Assume that the speed of light is 3.0m/s - an observer S observes a series of spherical light waves emanating from their fixed origin at time t=0 according to S. The wavelength of the light as seen by S is 1.0m. Another reference frame S' is moving in the positive x-direction of S at a speed of 2.8m. The clocks of s and s' are synched at t=o when the origins are also coincident. X' axis of S' is parallel to and moves directly over the X axis of S. The lengths of the axes of both s and s' will be 20 meters long.

calc all the emitted wave crests as seen by S after time t=1.0s has elapsed (According to S) hint- determine the general equation of motion

using Galilean transform. calc the geometrical structure of ALL emitted wave crests seen by S' after t'=2.5s

Using Lorentz transform. calc the ' ' ' structure of ALL emitted wave crests seen by S' after t'=2.5s


Homework Equations


Galilean = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galilean_transformation
Lorentz = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation


The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how to really apply both galilean and lorentz to this...
i know that for the first question total wave crests = wavelength/distance
 
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Hi 2x2lcallingcq, welcome to PF! :smile:

2x2lcallingcq said:
Assume that the speed of light is 3.0m/s[/color]

That's an odd assumption to make! Are you sure it doesn't say, "Assume that the speed of light is 3.0 × 108 m/s"?

I am not sure how to really apply both galilean and lorentz to this...
i know that for the first question total wave crests = wavelength/distance[/QUOTE]

Well, if you can calculate the wavelength and distance in S' using Galilean/Lorentz transformations, then surely you can calculate the number of wavecrests in S', right?:wink:

But, you'll need to be careful; the wavefronts are spherical, but the motion is only in the x-direction. What happens to each component of the wavevector? How is the wavelength related to these components?
 
I know it is goofy to think of light being so slow - but if that were true... when I walk by you I would be contracting at an alarming rate!
 
ALSO i should have mentioned that the only direction that is being measured is in the X and Y direction not the Z
 
Also how could i go about using the amazing transformations to accomplish this? I don't exactly know how to use the reference frames for waves of light... I could do it if i were measuring boxes or points on a plain but ...
 
Are you familiar with the general equation of a plane wave?
 
Like the y= cos((wt-k)(r+not)) that kind, ehhh? :)
 
Sort of, but you are looking for an equation for the electric (or magnetic) field [itex]\textbf{E}(\textbf{r},t)[/itex]...look up "electromagnetic plane wave" in your text or on wikipedia...
 

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