Special relativity of a triangle

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The problem involves a triangle with sides 1, 1, and sqrt(2) at rest, and the task is to determine the angles of the triangle when it moves at a speed of c/2. The context is within the framework of special relativity, particularly focusing on Lorentz contraction and its effects on the triangle's dimensions and angles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the orientation of the triangle in relation to its direction of motion and question which sides experience Lorentz contraction. There are attempts to calculate the new angles based on the observed lengths of the sides after considering the effects of motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the triangle's motion and dimensions. Some have provided calculations for the Lorentz factor and are questioning the implications of these factors on the triangle's geometry. There is no explicit consensus yet, as various aspects of the problem are still being examined.

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Participants are considering the effects of Lorentz contraction on the triangle's sides and angles, and there is an emphasis on the need for diagrams to clarify the geometry in the moving frame. The assumptions about the triangle's orientation and the direction of motion are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


In rest, a triangle has sides 1, 1 and sqrt(2). Find the angles of the triangle. when it moves with speed c/2.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found u_y and u_x - it's sin(45)*c/2 and cos(45)*c/2 - so I get the angles to be 45, 45 and 90 like before - but that can't be true?
 
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How is the triangle oriented with respect to the direction of motion? (I presume that it moves in the +x direction, parallel to one of the sides of length 1.) Which sides undergo Lorentz contraction? What are the observed lengths of the sides parallel and perpendicular to the x-axis? Use that to calculate the new angles.
 
It moves in the direction of the longest side - so in 45 degrees.

Then both sides undergo Lorentz-contradiction - but since the speed before is 0, the Lorentz-factor is 1?
 
If I understand you correctly (a diagram would be nice!) the long side is on the x-axis (the direction of motion) and the other sides angle upwards and meet at a vertex along the y-axis.

The proper dimensions of the triangle are as given: 1, 1, sqrt(2). From the moving frame, what is the gamma factor? (It's not 1!)

So, does the height of the triangle change? Does the length of the long side change? Draw yourself a diagram of the triangle as seen in the moving frame and recompute the angles.
 
I believe the diagram is as attached.

The Lorentz-factor in the moving frame is 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), where v = c/2.

So gamma = 2/sqrt(3), and the sides are L = L_0 * gamma?
 

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Niles said:
I believe the diagram is as attached.
Can I assume that it's moving along the x-direction? (And not parallel to the long side, as stated earlier.)

The Lorentz-factor in the moving frame is 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), where v = c/2.
Good.

So gamma = 2/sqrt(3),
Yes.
and the sides are L = L_0 * gamma?
No. The side parallel to the direction of motion will appear contracted: L = L_0/gamma.
 

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