Specific heat and possibly latent heat too..

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The problem involves mixing ice and steam to determine the final temperature of the resulting water. It is situated within the context of thermodynamics, specifically focusing on concepts of specific heat and latent heat.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an energy balance equation involving latent heat and specific heat but struggles with the calculations and the correct formulation of the equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, identifying errors in calculations and the formulation of the energy balance equation. There is a recognition of mistakes, and some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the equations.

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Participants are discussing the relevance of latent heat in the problem setup, indicating that assumptions about the phases of water may need to be reconsidered.

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Homework Statement


0.5kg of ice at 0 degrees celsius is mixed with 0.1kg of steam at 100 degrees celsius. what will be the final temperature?


Homework Equations


delta Q= m*c*delta T

and at first i thought delta Q= m*Lf ,but then i changed my mind. . .

The Attempt at a Solution



In my first attempt, i went

Lf*m(of ice) + m*c*(Tf-Ti)(of the now liquid water)=Lv*m(of steam)+ c*m*(Tf-Ti)(of now liquid water)

so 3.34*10^5*0.5 +0.5*4200*(T-0)=2.26*10^6*0.1+4200*0.1*(100-T)
167000+2100T=226000+42000-420T
2520T=435000
T=435000/2520
=172.62
Which is wrong!

so then i got rid of the latent heat and fusion, because i thought they were irrelevant to what i was trying to figure out and went
2100T=42000-420T
T=42000/2520
=16.67
Which is still wrong!

HELP ME PLEASE!

thankyou (:
 
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shannon.leigh said:
167000+2100T=226000+42000-420T
2520T=435000

Do the simplification again, the RHS is not 435000.

ehild
 
Are you serious? I just screwed up the calculations?
Damn my terrible skills with a calculator!
And thankyou thankyou thankyou for pointing that out ehild!
I am forever in your debt. :)
 
To tell the truth, there was a mistake in your equation, but you proceeded all right till the last row.

"Lf*m(of ice) + m*c*(Tf-Ti)(of the now liquid water)=Lv*m(of steam)+ c*m*(Tf-Ti)(of now liquid water)"

The red text should be Ti-Tf.

ehild
 

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