Specific heat capacity of metal

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the specific heat capacity of silicon when it is placed in water. The scenario includes specific masses and temperatures for both substances and requires the calculation of silicon's specific heat capacity based on energy transfer principles.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the principle of conservation of energy to relate the heat lost by silicon to the heat gained by water. They express uncertainty regarding the specific heat capacity of water and its representation as an ideal gas. Other participants question the assumption of water behaving as an ideal gas and suggest looking up the specific heat capacity of liquid water instead.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the properties of water as a liquid versus a gas. Some participants have provided guidance on checking known values for the specific heat capacity of water, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption regarding the specific heat capacity of water, with participants discussing the implications of treating water as an ideal gas, which may not align with the problem's context. The original poster is also facing constraints due to the need for known values that are not provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


I have 1.5 kgs of silicon with temperature 40 degrees celsius. It is dropped into 3 kgs of water holding temperature 25 degrees celsius. The system is heat isolated from the environment and the final temperature of the system is 26.2 degrees celsius. I need to find the specific heat capacity of silicon.

Homework Equations


\begin{equation}
C = \frac{\mathrm{d}Q}{\mathrm{d}T}
\end{equation}

The Attempt at a Solution


Energy lost by metal = energy gained by water:

\begin{equation}
\Delta U_{m} = \Delta U_{w}
\\
\Delta T_{m} m_{m} C_{m} = \Delta T_{w} m_{w} C_{w}
\\
C_m = \frac{\Delta T_{w} m_{w} C_{w}}{\Delta T_{m} m_{m} }
\end{equation}

Now I have one unkown, the specific heat capacity of water. Assuming water to be an ideal gas(which i guess kinda works at lower pressures) I have:

\begin{equation}
C_w = nR
\end{equation}
where $n$ are the amount of moles of water. But here I need the molar mass of water, so that's just another unkown. Is there any way to solve this problem with the given data?
 
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Vir said:
Assuming water to be an ideal gas
Isn't water a liquid in your problem? Can't you just look up the heat capacity of liquid water?
 
insightful said:
Isn't water a liquid in your problem? Can't you just look up the heat capacity of liquid water?
I thought gases and liquids had the same properties? The question specifically asks me to figure it out using these data.
 
Vir said:
I thought gases and liquids had the same properties? The question specifically asks me to figure it out using these data.
They expect you to know or to look up the heat capacity of liquid water. Look it up and compare it with that of water vapor. Is it really the same?

Chet
 

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