Speed of electron in electric field question

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The problem involves two stationary positive point charges and an electron released from rest at the midpoint between them. The question seeks to determine the speed of the electron when it is a certain distance from one of the charges, specifically after it has moved along the line connecting the two charges.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the electron and the changing acceleration as it moves. Some suggest using electric potential and conservation of energy as an approach. Others raise questions about the calculations of potential differences and energy gained by the electron.

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Some participants have provided insights into the problem, suggesting alternative methods and questioning the calculations presented. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the potential differences and the resulting energy calculations, with no clear consensus yet reached.

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Participants note the importance of including units in their calculations, specifically mentioning that the charges are in nanocoulombs and distances in centimeters. There is a sense of urgency regarding the submission of the homework, with participants expressing concern over potential errors in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Two stationary positive point charges, charge 1 of magnitude 3.55 and charge 2 of magnitude 1.60 , are separated by a distance of 55.0cm. An electron is released from rest at the point midway between the two charges, and it moves along the line connecting the two charges.

What is the speed of the electron when it is 10.0 from charge 1?

The attempt at a solution

Fnet = kQe/r² - kqe/r² = [(9x10^9)(1.6x10^-19)/0.275²][3.8 - 2]x10^-9

Fnet = 3.71x10^-17

a = Fnet/m = 4.076x10^13

t² = 2ax = 2.855x10^6

t = (10^6)√6.32 = 2.855x10^6 m/s

v(x) = 2.855x10^6 m/s x 4.076x10^13

but answer doesn't make sense

thank you all for your time
 
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lowcard2 said:

Homework Statement


Two stationary positive point charges, charge 1 of magnitude 3.55 and charge 2 of magnitude 1.60 , are separated by a distance of 55.0cm. An electron is released from rest at the point midway between the two charges, and it moves along the line connecting the two charges.

What is the speed of the electron when it is 10.0 from charge 1?

The attempt at a solution

Fnet = kQe/r² - kqe/r² = [(9x10^9)(1.6x10^-19)/0.275²][3.8 - 2]x10^-9

Fnet = 3.71x10^-17

a = Fnet/m = 4.076x10^13

t² = 2ax = 2.855x10^6

t = (10^6)√6.32 = 2.855x10^6 m/s

v(x) = 2.855x10^6 m/s x 4.076x10^13

but answer doesn't make sense

thank you all for your time
Hello lowcard2. Welcome to PF !

As the electron moves, the force on it changes, and therefore so does it's acceleration.

I suggest doing this problem using electric potential & conservation of energy.
 
thank you for the welcome!

forgot to include units in question. nC charges and cm distances
can someone check this?

Potential at a point: V = kq/r.

Relative to charge 1, the potentials are V1i = (9x10^9)(3.55)(10^-9)/(0.275) = 116 volts before, and
V1f = (9x10^9)(3.55)(10^-9)/(0.10) = 3.20x10^11319.5volts after.
Potential difference: 203.5V

Relative to charge 2, V2i = (9x10^9)(1.60)(10^-9)/(0.275) = 52.4 volts before, and
V2f = (9x10^9)(1.60)/(0.45) = 32 volts after.
Potential difference: -20.4V

Those differences are in opposite directions (one pulls left, the other right), so 203.5 -20.4V = 183.1V

Energy gained by an electron traveling down that gradient: qV = (1.6x10^-19)(183.1) = 2.93x10^-17 joules.

2.93x10^-17 = 1/2(9.11x10^-31kg)v^2
v=8.02x10^-6
 
lowcard2 said:
thank you for the welcome!

forgot to include units in question. nC charges and cm distances
can someone check this?

Potential at a point: V = kq/r.

Relative to charge 1, the potentials are V1i = (9x10^9)(3.55)(10^-9)/(0.275) = 116 volts before, and
V1f = (9x10^9)(3.55)(10^-9)/(0.10) = 3.20x10^11319.5volts after.
Potential difference: 203.5V

Relative to charge 2, V2i = (9x10^9)(1.60)(10^-9)/(0.275) = 52.4 volts before, and
V2f = (9x10^9)(1.60)/(0.45) = 32 volts after.
Potential difference: -20.4V

Those differences are in opposite directions (one pulls left, the other right), so 203.5 -20.4V = 183.1V

Energy gained by an electron traveling down that gradient: qV = (1.6x10^-19)(183.1) = 2.93x10^-17 joules.

2.93x10^-17 = 1/2(9.11x10^-31kg)v^2
v=8.02x10^-6
How can you divide something on the order of 10-17 by something on the order of 10-34 and wind up with something much less than 1 ?
 
sorry that's not supposed to be ^-6. its positive

any input would be great. I only have one submission left so i have no room for error
 
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i have a couple hours to submit. any more comments? thank you guys
 

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