Speed of Light: Can We Go Faster?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of making light travel faster than its established speed limit, as defined by special relativity. It is noted that no object or particle can exceed the speed of light in a vacuum, and theoretical ideas, such as "throwing" a light source, do not change this principle. Some participants mention that variations in vacuum conditions could potentially affect light speed, but this remains speculative and lacks empirical support. The conversation also touches on the implications of changing fundamental constants and how such changes would be indistinguishable in practice. Overall, the consensus reinforces that, according to current physical theories, nothing can travel faster than light.
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is it possible to make light travel faster than the actual speed of light? an unrealistic idea is to "throw" the source of light in the direction of the emitting beam...theoretically it must work.

another question does anything travel faster than light?
 
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tko_gx said:
is it possible to make light travel faster than the actual speed of light? an unrealistic idea is to "throw" the source of light in the direction of the emitting beam...theoretically it must work.
Not according to currently accepted physical theory (special relativity). The speed of light is the same with respect to any frame, regardless of the speed of the source.

another question does anything travel faster than light?
No.
 
Good link. But no "thing" (object or particle) travels faster than light.
 
Doc Al said:
But no "thing" (object or particle) travels faster than light.

In vacuum. :wink:
 
neutrino said:
In vacuum. :wink:

D'oh! You got me! :-p
 
I heard somewhere that you could lower the amount of energy in a vacuum and the speed of light itself could potentially raise by a fraction.

Not all vacuums are the same. The measure speed of light is currently only observed in one vacuum.

It wouldn't change much though...
 
Jilvin said:
I heard somewhere that you could lower the amount of energy in a vacuum and the speed of light itself could potentially raise by a fraction.

Not all vacuums are the same. The measure speed of light is currently only observed in one vacuum..

Would you like to make an exact citation on where you "heard" this from? Keep in mind of the speculative post no-no that is explicitly stated in the PF guidelines.

Zz.
 
i just get tired of seeing this recur so often without people wondering if any such change in c can even be meaningful. as if we would know the difference.

quoting John Barrow:

[An] important lesson we learn from the way that pure numbers like \alpha define the world is what it really means for worlds to be different. The pure number we call the fine structure constant and denote by \alpha is a combination of the electron charge, e, the speed of light, c, and Planck's constant, h. At first we might be tempted to think that a world in which the speed of light was slower would be a different world. But this would be a mistake. If c, h, and e were all changed so that the values they have in metric (or any other) units were different when we looked them up in our tables of physical constants, but the value of \alpha remained the same, this new world would be ''observationally indistinguishable'' from our world. The only thing that counts in the definition of worlds are the values of the dimensionless constants of Nature. If all masses were doubled in value [including the Planck mass mP ] you cannot tell because all the pure numbers defined by the ratios of any pair of masses are unchanged.

i just wish people would ask: "how would we ever know that the speed of light has changed? ... changed relative to what??"
 
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rbj said:
i just get tired of seeing this recur so often without people wondering if any such change in c can even be meaningful. as if we would know the difference.

i just wish people would ask: "how would we ever know that the speed of light has changed? ... changed relative to what??"

Someone actually posted a question on similar lines, recently...
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1421517&postcount=5
 
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The accelerating cosmos infers that beyond the universal event horizon, unobservable spacetime moves faster than light speed relative to us.

See also the (speculative) book Faster Than Light: Superluminal Loopholes in Physics (Plume) by Nick Herbert.
 
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