Speed of Light: Distant Galaxies & Observability

AI Thread Summary
Distant galaxies can recede from us faster than the speed of light due to the expansion of space, which does not drag light with it, making some objects unobservable. While objects moving faster than light may seem unobservable, light from these galaxies can still reach us if they are within our observable universe's light cone. The Hubble recession velocity can exceed the speed of light, with galaxies at certain redshifts moving away at velocities greater than c. The mathematics of this phenomenon is complex, but it aligns with models of cosmic expansion. Understanding these concepts is essential for grasping the nature of the universe and its observable limits.
cosmicpencil
Messages
25
Reaction score
0
how can it be that the distant galaxies moove away from us faster than the speed of light and thus are not observable. now don't get me rong i know its not the objects mooving but space itself, any relevant theories on this ? thanks
 
Space news on Phys.org
Objects moving at/above the speed of light are not necessarily unobservable just as objects moving faster than the speed of sound are not necessarily inaudible. You just have to be inside the light or sound cone to see/hear them. Ie, if an object passes you at twice the speed of sound at a distance of 1100 feet, you hear it 1 second after it passes since the speed of sound is 1100 fps and the sound only has to travel 1100 feet to get to you (draw a picture based on that and you can construct the shape and angle of the mach cone).

An object moving faster than the speed of sound isn't dragging its sound with it and an object moving faster than light (ie, via the expansion of space) is not dragging its light with it, though the expansion of space makes the math a little more difficult for light than for sound as there is a visible horizon to the observable universe.
 
cosmicpencil said:
how can it be that the distant galaxies moove away from us faster than the speed of light and thus are not observable. now don't get me rong i know its not the objects mooving but space itself, any relevant theories on this ? thanks

We can see (receive light from) objects with Hubble recession velocities greater than the speed of light (c). Objects at the particle horizon (redshift = infinity) have Hubble recession velocity = 2c in the flat, matter-dominated model, for example. In that model, objects with redshift equal to 3 are receding at c today and were moving away from us faster when the light was emitted long ago. If you want a popular explanation, see

"Misconceptions about the Big Bang," Charles H. Lineweaver & Tamara M. Davis, Sci. Am. 292, #3, Mar 05, pp. 36-45.

For an explanation for undergrad physics students, see

"Can galaxies exist within our particle horizon with Hubble recessional velocities greater than c?" W.M. Stuckey, Am. J. Phys. 60, #2, Feb 92, pp. 142-146.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology) Was a matter density right after the decoupling low enough to consider the vacuum as the actual vacuum, and not the medium through which the light propagates with the speed lower than ##({\epsilon_0\mu_0})^{-1/2}##? I'm asking this in context of the calculation of the observable universe radius, where the time integral of the inverse of the scale factor is multiplied by the constant speed of light ##c##.
The formal paper is here. The Rutgers University news has published a story about an image being closely examined at their New Brunswick campus. Here is an excerpt: Computer modeling of the gravitational lens by Keeton and Eid showed that the four visible foreground galaxies causing the gravitational bending couldn’t explain the details of the five-image pattern. Only with the addition of a large, invisible mass, in this case, a dark matter halo, could the model match the observations...
Hi, I’m pretty new to cosmology and I’m trying to get my head around the Big Bang and the potential infinite extent of the universe as a whole. There’s lots of misleading info out there but this forum and a few others have helped me and I just wanted to check I have the right idea. The Big Bang was the creation of space and time. At this instant t=0 space was infinite in size but the scale factor was zero. I’m picturing it (hopefully correctly) like an excel spreadsheet with infinite...
Back
Top