Speed of light should depend on the amplitude of the waveform?

In summary, the author is asking why we assume light travels in a straight line and not treat it like a waveform. They explain that light waves have a frequency and that when we look at things at lower frequencies, most objects are on a larger scale than the wavelength of visible light. They also explain that there is a hierarchy of modeling light and that the simplest to more complex is geometric optics, physical optics, unified theory of diffraction, shooting and bouncing rays, and then a full wave solve like method of moments, finite-difference time-domain, or finite element.
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I guess I am just bored, but I was wondering why we assume light travels in a straight line and not treat it like a waveform as I was taught in school. As far as I can remember light waves each have a frequency. Why do we not take into calculation that it actually travels over a longer path than what we give it credit for? I do understand that in the end it has very little bearing on where the light ends up, but this just seems a bit odd to me for some reason.

I mean overall a light wave with an amplitude of 500nm and say a wave length of 650nm since I like red... to simplify the calculation if we use say the formula for a eclipse for a total movement we would get something like:

Circ = pi * sqrt(2*(.000000250^2 + .000000325^2)
Circ = 0.00000182171745359 meters

take the speed of light and get how many waves there are in it...

google this and they will do the math: ((299792458/.000000650)*0.00000182171745359)

299792458(m/s) / .000000650 = X
X * Circ = 840211005(m/s) Which is actually how far light moves if it has an amplitude of 500nm and a wavelength of 650nm.

Although in the end it is constantly negating the sinusoidal movement shouldn't this be taken into consideration when looking at the speed of light and our limitations concerning the speed of light?

To explain why I choose the formula for an eclipse to calculate with if it is a waveform be it sin or cos it seems logical an eclipse is a reasonable model for which to infer circumferance from.

I also don't mean this to be against the TOS with a "crackpot theory" this just came to me and I couldn't think of a reasonable explanation as to why we do not take this into account.
 
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Maybe you need to spend some time and effort and understand the meanings of "phase velocity" and "group velocity", and figure out what is meant when we talk about the "speed of light" in the context of wave mechanics.

Zz.
 
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The wave effects of light only really manifest itself when we are dealing with scatterers and length scales on the order of the light's wavelength. So for all intents and purposes, most objects that we see in our day to day life are magnitudes larger than the wavelengths of the visible regime. If you were to start looking at maybe polarizers or move down to the low frequencies of the microwave and RF ranges then you would see that most of the time the behavior of light is treated using full wave solutions.

There is a hierarchy in modeling light. The simplest to more complex is geometric optics, physical optics, unified theory of diffraction, shooting and bouncing rays, and then a full wave solve like method of moments, finite-difference time-domain, or finite element. the first four methods are all high-frequency solvers that take into account more and more the wave nature of light.

If you want to get more technical, look at Feynmann's ideas about quantum electrodynamics. There are some formulations of QED that can be equated to taking into account all possible paths that light can travel from point A to point B.
 
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the amplitude is a measure of the electric field or the magnetic field that make up the light, so its not a physical distance up and down, so u can't use arc length to say it has traveled that far.
 

What is the speed of light?

The speed of light is a universal constant, denoted by the letter "c", which represents the speed at which light travels in a vacuum. Its value is approximately 299,792,458 meters per second.

Does the speed of light depend on the amplitude of the waveform?

According to the currently accepted theory of relativity, the speed of light is constant and does not depend on the amplitude of the waveform. This means that regardless of the intensity or energy of the light, it will always travel at the same speed in a vacuum.

Why does the speed of light need to be constant?

The constancy of the speed of light is a fundamental principle in physics and is necessary for the consistency of many physical laws and equations. If the speed of light were to vary, it would lead to inconsistencies and contradictions in our understanding of the universe.

Are there any exceptions to the constancy of the speed of light?

In certain mediums, such as water or glass, the speed of light may appear to be slower due to the interaction of light with the particles in the medium. However, in a vacuum, the speed of light remains constant.

What experiments have been conducted to test the constancy of the speed of light?

Several experiments have been conducted, including the famous Michelson-Morley experiment, which have all consistently shown that the speed of light is constant and does not depend on the amplitude of the waveform. The most recent and precise experiment was conducted by the European Space Agency in 2016, confirming the constancy of the speed of light to be accurate to within 0.001%.

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