Speeding up charging speed of smartphones.

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The discussion revolves around the potential for improving the charging speed of smartphones, exploring both technological possibilities and limitations. Participants examine the chemistry of batteries, safety concerns, and alternative solutions for faster charging.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the technological feasibility of reducing charging times for smartphones and seeks to understand the obstacles involved.
  • Another participant notes that while there are limits due to battery chemistry kinetics, faster charging could compromise battery lifespan and cycle count.
  • A participant inquires if there are ways to bypass the limitations on charging speed.
  • Suggestions include using an outboard battery as a workaround for charging issues.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of lithium-ion batteries, emphasizing the risks of improper charging and potential hazards like fires or explosions.
  • Ultracapacitors are mentioned as a faster charging alternative, though they may come with trade-offs in capacity or size.
  • One participant explains that altering the charge rate of a battery charger requires access to specific circuit or software controls, which may not be feasible for all devices.

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Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and safety of faster charging methods, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Limitations include the dependence on battery chemistry, potential safety risks associated with lithium-ion batteries, and the technical challenges of modifying charging circuits or software.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring battery technology, smartphone users seeking faster charging solutions, and those concerned with battery safety and longevity.

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Is it technologically possible to improve the speed of these machine's charging?

I mean, I want to go now for a walk, but it seems I need to charge my phone for at least 30 minutes, can we lower the expected charging time?

What obstacles do we find to overcome this?

Thanks in advance, MP.
 
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I had a conversation a long, long time ago (before mobile phones could fit in your pockets) with someone working in research on batteries, on the subject of charging times. There is of course a limit due to the kinetics of the chemistry taking place in the battery. But apart from that, you could have a very fast charge, but there is a cost to it, in terms of the lifetime of the battery or number of charge cycles before the capacity falls below an acceptable threshold. So you basically have to accept a compromise between having to wait for it to charge and buying new batteries all the time.
 
No way to bypass this obstacle?
 
Use an outboard battery.
 
If the battery is Lithium-ion, I definitely would not recommend messing with it. Li-ion batteries can catch fire or explode if charged or discharged improperly.

For other battery types it's pretty much what the other people already said. It may be possible to charge them faster, but doing so could damage the battery, shorten the life, or reduce the actual charge absorbed. There are a few reasons for this - internal heating, incomplete crystal formation, too slow ion drift rates, etc.

Overall the obvious piece of advice is that you should do your research before attempting anything.
 
Ultracapacitors would charge much more rapidly, but would have less capacity or be larger in size or both.
 
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You cannot change the charge rate of a battery charger unless you have access to the circuit and/or the processor code that controls the charge profile. I don't happen to know how accessible/flexible the android charge code is and whether you can mess with it. (theoretically you can root your device, change the code, and re-rom it). The design would be phone dependent and possibly fully controlled by a dedicated IC. Your best bet is to buy an external battery pack for those times when you need it.

If you mess with lithium battery chargers you can cause the batteries to burn up your device (or worse). (google lithium battery fire)
 
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