Spin of Sfermions: 2 d.o.f, Why Complex Scalar Not Spin-1?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of sfermions in supersymmetry (SUSY) and their degrees of freedom, specifically questioning why sfermions are represented as complex scalars rather than spin-1 fields. The conversation touches on theoretical implications, representations in quantum theories, and the requirements for gauge invariance.

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  • Some participants assert that a Weyl spinor has 2 degrees of freedom (d.o.f), necessitating that its superpartner also has 2 d.o.f, leading to the question of why it is a complex scalar and not a spin-1 field.
  • It is proposed that left-handed fermions in the Standard Model are doublets under the electroweak group, while right-handed fermions are singlets, which implies that in an ##N=1## SUSY theory, they must be placed in chiral multiplets containing scalars and fermions.
  • Some participants argue that spin-1 fields must lie in the adjoint representation of a gauge group for the quantum theory to be consistent, which leads to the conclusion that the superpartners of fermions must also be in the fundamental representation, resulting in sfermions being spin-0.
  • A later reply questions the logic that spin-1 fields must always be in the adjoint representation, suggesting that massless spin-1 particles can exist in other representations, as they do not possess longitudinal components.
  • Further elaboration indicates that the quantization of spin-1 fields requires gauge invariance, and without it, negative norm states arise, complicating the theory.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of quantizing massless particles with helicity components and the challenges of maintaining Lorentz invariance without admitting gauge symmetry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of spin-1 fields being in the adjoint representation and the implications of gauge invariance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which massless spin-1 particles can exist outside the adjoint representation.

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Participants note that the arguments presented depend on specific assumptions about representations and gauge invariance, which may not be universally accepted or applicable in all contexts.

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I understand that the degrees of freedom must match.

A Weyl spinor has 2 d.o.f (spin up and spin down), thus the superpartner must also have 2 d.o.f
Is there a reason why it is a complex scalar and not of spin-1?
 
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The left-handed fermions in the Standard Model are doublets under the electroweak group, while the right-handed fermions are singlets. The only way to do this in am ##N=1## SUSY theory is if we put them in chiral multiplets, which only have scalars and fermions. Conversely, a spin 1 field must be in the adjoint representation of a gauge group for the quantum theory to make sense. Since there are no SM fermions in an adjoint representation, the fermions in any vector multiplets must be superpartners (gauginos), not SM particles.
 
Hi fzero, thanks for your answer.

Can you check if my chain of reasoning is correct?

- Spin 1 fields must lie in the adjoint representation of any quantum theory (I actually didn't know this was a requirement)
- SM Fermions live in the fundamental representation => When extending SM with SUSY, the superpartners of the fermions must also be in the fundamental rep.
- Thus sfermions are of spin 0, not spin 1.
 
kev0 said:
Hi fzero, thanks for your answer.

Can you check if my chain of reasoning is correct?

- Spin 1 fields must lie in the adjoint representation of any quantum theory (I actually didn't know this was a requirement)

Yes, to flesh this out, the longitudinal component of a spin 1 field with no gauge invariance would have negative norm once the theory is quantized. However, if the spin 1 field transforms in the familiar way under a gauge invariance (##A_\mu \rightarrow A_\mu + \partial_\mu\alpha##), this longitudinal component becomes an unphysical, pure gauge degree of freedom. This gauge transformation corresponds to the one in which ##A_\mu## is the connection of a gauge-covariant derivative, as is familiar from demonstrating that the matter kinetic terms are gauge-invariant. This identification with the connection on the gauge group is precisely the one which requires that the gauge field be in the adjoint representation.

- SM Fermions live in the fundamental representation => When extending SM with SUSY, the superpartners of the fermions must also be in the fundamental rep.
- Thus sfermions are of spin 0, not spin 1.

Yes, this is true that the left-handed fermions turn out to be in fundamental representations and so the entire supermultiplets must transform the same way.
 
fzero said:
Yes, to flesh this out, the longitudinal component of a spin 1 field with no gauge invariance would have negative norm once the theory is quantized. However, if the spin 1 field transforms in the familiar way under a gauge invariance (##A_\mu \rightarrow A_\mu + \partial_\mu\alpha##), this longitudinal component becomes an unphysical, pure gauge degree of freedom. This gauge transformation corresponds to the one in which ##A_\mu## is the connection of a gauge-covariant derivative, as is familiar from demonstrating that the matter kinetic terms are gauge-invariant. This identification with the connection on the gauge group is precisely the one which requires that the gauge field be in the adjoint representation.
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I don't think that logic is as tight as it seems because of the possibility of having a massless spin 1 particle in a representation other than the adjoint representation. Massless particles don't have longitudinal components.
 
dauto said:
I don't think that logic is as tight as it seems because of the possibility of having a massless spin 1 particle in a representation other than the adjoint representation. Massless particles don't have longitudinal components.

To be complete I should have referred to both timelike and longitudinal components. But that is for a formalism where we start with a theory of a 4-vector and attempt to quantize. You suggest the equally appropriate starting point of quantizing a massless particle with helicity ##\pm 1## components. But then you run into difficulty because if we try to assemble these components into a 4-vector, you find that a generic Lorentz transformation generates a timelike component. So the theory is not Lorentz-invariant unless we admit the ##A_\mu \rightarrow A_\mu + \partial_\mu \alpha## gauge symmetry. This is discussed in Weinberg.

One could certainly produce a much more rigorous argument than I have, but one should always be led to the conclusion that consistent quantization of a spin 1 field requires a specific gauge-invariance. I am not sure if one could add an additional representation under a 2nd gauge group in which a gauge field transforms in a representation other than the adjoint.
 
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