Square an inequality if both sides are positive

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This discussion clarifies the conditions under which one can square or cube inequalities when both sides are positive. It establishes that squaring an inequality is valid only for positive numbers due to the non-increasing nature of the function f(x)=x² for negative values. In contrast, cubing an inequality is permissible for all real numbers since the function f(x)=x³ is increasing everywhere. The discussion also highlights the differences in outcomes when manipulating inequalities, specifically in the context of the equations a² + b² = c².

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I know that we can square an inequality if both sides are positive.
But can we cube an inequality provided both the sides are positive?
If no then why?
 
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The question of whether you can perform an operation on both sides of an inequality is one of whether the function is increasing or decreasing. the function f(x)=x2 is not increasing (when x is negative), so will not preserve order.

On the other hand, for just the positive set of numbers, f(x)=x2 is increasing, so f(x)<f(y) if and only if x<y.

The function f(x)=x3 is increasing everywhere, so x3<y3 if and only if x<y This means that you can cube both sides of an inequality whenever you want
 


Suppose a<c and b<c (all are positive)
and a,b,c are related by the equation a^2 + b^2 =c^2
I proceeded in 2 ways-
1) a^3 < c^3
and b^3 <c^3
i.e. (a^3 + b^3 )/2 < c^3

2) a^3=a.a^2<c.a^2
similarly b.b^2<c.b^2
i.e. a^3 + b^3 < c^3 (a^2 + b^2=c^2)

why are 1 and 2 different?
 


1 and 2 are different because you did different things. When you manipulate an inequality you aren't guaranteed to get the best possible new inequality; in this case the first one just happens to be worse than the second one.

Notice you didn't use the fact about the sum of a and b squared when doing (1), which means that it's true for any choices of a, b and c, whereas in (2) a, b and c need to satisfy a2+b2=c2
 


If 0< x< y, then, multiplying both sides by the positive number x, 0&lt; x^2&lt; xy. Multiplying 0< x< y by the positive number y, 0&lt; xy&lt; y^2. Since "<" is "transitive", 0&lt; x^2&lt; xy&lt; y^2 so x^2&lt; y^2.

Do that again to get cubes.
 

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