I Standard measure of distance from equilibrium for all systems

AI Thread Summary
There is no universal measure to quantify how far a system is displaced from equilibrium across all physical systems. Different systems, such as a kicked ball, a stretched spring, heated liquid, or charged battery, require distinct measures like net force, potential energy, temperature, or voltage potential. The discussion highlights that while specific examples like the spring's displacement can be quantified, a single metric cannot apply universally. In statistical mechanics, measures like the number of standard deviations from equilibrium may be relevant, but they are limited in scope. Ultimately, the consensus is that each system necessitates its own unique approach to measurement.
pepperellrob
Messages
2
Reaction score
1
Is there a standard way to measure how far a system is displaced from equilibrium that can be applied to all physical systems? So, for example, a ball that is kicked, a spring that is stretched, a liquid that’s heated, and a charged battery are all systems that are displaced from equilibrium. I am assuming that to quantify how far each of these is displaced from equilibrium a different measure would be used, such as the net force applied, the amount of potential energy, the temperature, or the voltage potential, and that no single measure can be applied in all cases. Is this assumption correct?
 
Science news on Phys.org
Hello @pepperellrob ,
:welcome: ##\qquad##!​
Interesting thought. Corny answers come to mind, like with your spring example: in the ##F = -kx## equation, the variable ##x## is a measure of how far away you are from equilibrium, litterally :smile: .

I tend to agree with your conclusion
pepperellrob said:
no single measure can be applied in all cases

Now, you posted in the thermo forum. In that context (statistical mechanics) I remember the staggering sharpness of probability distributions for e.g. equilibrium pressure, entropy of a system, number of particles in a subvolume, and what have you. Perhaps the number of standard deviations away from equilibrium would be a measure in those cases. But it would be a very small measure ...

##\ ##
 
Thanks @BvU, that's helpful and I like your example!
 
Back
Top