Starting books for Quantum Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for introductory books and resources for studying quantum mechanics, particularly aimed at undergraduates who are new to the subject. Participants share their experiences with various texts, highlighting both theoretical and practical aspects of learning quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with Shankar's book due to its mathematical focus and lack of physical significance.
  • Another suggests the Feynman Lectures, specifically volume 3, as a comprehensive resource.
  • Eisberg and Resnick's "Quantum Physics" is recommended by one participant.
  • Ghirardi's "Sneaking a Look at God's Cards" is mentioned as a preferred reading.
  • Albert's "Quantum Mechanics and Experience" and Susskind's "Quantum Mechanics" are also suggested for proper learning.
  • Zettili's book is praised for its numerous problems and clarity, while Griffiths' book is criticized by some for being overly simplistic and not providing enough depth.
  • Some participants note that many experienced educators recommend Griffiths, despite mixed reviews from students.
  • Concerns are raised about Griffiths' approach, with one participant stating that their confusion was resolved after switching to Zettili.
  • Another participant argues that Griffiths' treatment of certain concepts is more precise, even if perceived as simplistic.
  • Criticism of Zettili's treatment of time as an observable in quantum theory is presented, with suggestions to consider works by Pauli, Dirac, Sakurai, or Weinberg instead.
  • French and Taylor's book is mentioned as a potential resource.
  • One participant recommends McIntyre's book, emphasizing the importance of learning linear algebra first.
  • Discussion includes a mention of the lack of sample pages on Amazon, affecting purchasing decisions.
  • Pauling and Wilson's "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics With Applications to Chemistry" is suggested, along with Gamow's "Thirty Years That Shook Physics" for its accessible explanations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the recommended texts, with no clear consensus on which book is the best for beginners. Some favor Zettili, while others advocate for Griffiths, indicating a division in preferences and experiences with these resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the prerequisites for understanding quantum mechanics, particularly the importance of mathematical foundations. There is also mention of differing pedagogical approaches among the recommended texts, which may affect their suitability for different learners.

Avimanyu Ray
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Hello I'm an undergrad. Can anyone suggest me books, articles, lectures for studying quantum mechanics as a fresh starter? I tried r. Shankar but it only mathematical to me, couldn't get the physical significance. On the other hand, Griffith got way deep in concepts without sufficient examples and practice.
So how can I develop my aptitude and logic in quantum world?
 
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Feynman lectures, volume 3, but I suggest you read them all and in order.
 
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I really like Ghirardi's "Sneaking a look at God's cards".
 
I think Zettili's book is the best I've come across. It has something like 600 solved/unsolved problems throughout and is well written. Just stay away from Griffiths QM book. It's awful in my opinion.
 
Yet many knowledge and experienced researchers and educators here highly recommend Griffith book.
 
Well given the many questions of confused students reading Griffiths's QM book, I have my doubts. However, I've not looked very carefully at the book myself.
 
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Yet many knowledge and experienced researchers and educators here highly recommend Griffith book.
I think most people use Griffiths book because it is "simple" and "conversational" and doesn't put too much work into prerequisites. I found this a bloody disaster and my confusion was immediately cleared-up when I switched to Zettili.
 
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Einstein once wisely sait: "You should explain things as simple as possible but not simpler." ...
 
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snatchingthepi said:
I think most people use Griffiths book because it is "simple" and "conversational" and doesn't put too much work into prerequisites. I found this a bloody disaster and my confusion was immediately cleared-up when I switched to Zettili.

I had a quick look at Zettili. Very interesting.

"Energy and time, for instance, form a pair of complementary variables. Their simultaneous
measurement must obey the time–energy uncertainty relation:
$$\Delta E \Delta t \ge \frac{\hbar}{2}$$
This relation states that if we make two measurements of the energy of a system and if these
measurements are separated by a time interval ##\Delta t## the measured energies will differ by an
amount ##\Delta E## which can in no way be smaller than ##\frac{\hbar}{\Delta t}##."

Griffiths has too much to say on the time-energy relation to quote it all, but regarding the HUP he says:

"The position-momentum uncertainty principle is often written in the form:
$$\Delta x \Delta p \ge \frac{\hbar}{2}$$
##\Delta x## (the uncertainty in ##x##) is loose notation (and sloppy language) for the standard deviation of the results of repeated experiments on identically prepared systems."

I prefer Griffiths' precision, even though his book has a reputation for being simplistic. Unlike Zettili, when he dodges an issue, he always let's you know.
 
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In this example Zetttili (whose book I don't know at all) is worse than Griffiths, because it's not sloppy but plain wrong since time is not an observable in QT. Then better read Pauli, Dirac, or another serious book on the subject. I recommend to start with Sakurai and then Weinberg.
 
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If we are talking about textbook at that level then my recommendation is https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma... Fusion of Science and Community&txt=McIntyreor https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma...e Fusion of Science and Community&txt=Sakuraior https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma... Fusion of Science and Community&txt=TownSend- each uses spins first approach which in my opinion much easier and modern way to learn Quantum Mechanics. I personally like McIntyre the best.

If I were you I would learn linear algebra first and then read Shttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FD36G1Q/?tag=pfamazon01-20to get a decent overall picture and then read https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma... Fusion of Science and Community&txt=McIntyre.
 
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What's up with Amazon, you used to get sample pages to browse. Has this function been disabled.

I am more likely to buy a book if I can sample it.
 
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I'm not saying ignore the most recent textbooks on QM, but I like Introduction to Quantum Mechanics With Applications to Chemistry by Linus Pauling and E. Bright Wilson Jr.

To balance that with something short and easy, I recommend starting out with Thirty Years That Shook Physics by Gamow. He has a talent for explaining things in simple terms. See for example his explanation of the blackbody radiation problem and his "butter" analogy for energy quanta.
 

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